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*EPDM is not neoprene [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=is+epdm+same+as+neoprene&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5]
*EPDM is not neoprene [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=is+epdm+same+as+neoprene&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5]
*Latex bonding agents - [https://www.euclid-chemical.com/fileshare/Literature/Technical_Bulletins/CP-15-Latex_Bonding_Agents.pdf]. Latex is polymer particles in water.
*Latex bonding agents - [https://www.euclid-chemical.com/fileshare/Literature/Technical_Bulletins/CP-15-Latex_Bonding_Agents.pdf]. Latex is polymer particles in water.
**Styrene Butadiene Latex (SBL). See difference between Styrene Butadiene Rubber and Styrene Butadiene Latex [https://www.mcpolymers.com/library/the-difference-between-styrene-butadiene-rubber-and-styrene-butadiene-latex]. Sourcing - [https://www.floorprep.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/White-Latex-Liquid-SDS.pdf] - 30% by weight SBL. 150-250 sf coverage. Can be used as primer for glue? Sourcing - [https://www.floorprep.com/product/white-latex-liquid/]
**Styrene Butadiene Latex (SBL). See difference between Styrene Butadiene Rubber and Styrene Butadiene Latex [https://www.mcpolymers.com/library/the-difference-between-styrene-butadiene-rubber-and-styrene-butadiene-latex]. Sourcing - [https://www.floorprep.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/White-Latex-Liquid-SDS.pdf] - 30% by weight SBL. 150-250 sf coverage. Can be used as primer for glue? Data Sheet - [https://www.floorprep.com/product/white-latex-liquid/]. Sourcing - [https://www.google.com/shopping/product/8210082157189217495?q=sb+latex&sxsrf=ALeKk03MOmw9rJvANmhDeMO78d1v0e-V0g:1616730661522&biw=1514&bih=768&prds=eto:2669010270887105423_0&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7rdOTh83vAhVPXM0KHZLrA_YQgwgI9AM]
**Polyvinyl Acetate Latex
**Polyvinyl Acetate Latex
**Acrylic Latex. Ex - MAPEI [https://cdnmedia.mapei.com/docs/librariesprovider10/products-documents/3000192-polymer-additive-en.pdf?sfvrsn=daea732b_0], cement additive - [https://www.lowes.com/pd/MAPEI-2-Gallon-White-Liquid-Latex-Mortar-Additive-Mortar/3743849]
**Acrylic Latex. Ex - MAPEI [https://cdnmedia.mapei.com/docs/librariesprovider10/products-documents/3000192-polymer-additive-en.pdf?sfvrsn=daea732b_0], cement additive - [https://www.lowes.com/pd/MAPEI-2-Gallon-White-Liquid-Latex-Mortar-Additive-Mortar/3743849]

Revision as of 03:51, 26 March 2021

Problem Statement

  • Gluing rubber, such as EPDM.
  • Contact cement works on EPDM - [1]. Customer says this is 'closest to ideal' for EPDM on metal [2]
  • DAP 234 is essentially toluene, hexane, acetone with some dissolved rubber.
  • Dissolved rubber is polychlorinated rubber, the thing of rubber paint [3]
  • What is solvent of rubber paint? Toluene and xylene - [4]
  • Dissolved rubber - LionGuard [5] - for EPDM it's dissolved neoprene, in aromatics and ketone? Yes, same as DAP 123 (aromatics + acetone ketone).

Types of Glues

  • Structural acrylic glues work - Permabond TA4605 and Permabond TA4610 structural acrylic adhesives - [6]

AKA Crazy Glue

  • Wikipedia - CA -
  • Does not work well because it will stick, but contraction will easily break the glue - [7]
  • Use rubbery solvent glues.

Sourcing

  • 5 gallons, $121 - 60 sf/gal - is this really CA glue? [8]. $71 shipping.
  • 5 gal, 60 CA Adhesive, $250 - [9]

EPDM Solvents

  • N-hexane, toluene. Benzene, pentane. Toluene is best [10]
  • Toluene - $20/gal - [11]
  • Gasoline, diesel, oil eats EPDM - [12]

Notes

  • EPDM is not neoprene [13]
  • Latex bonding agents - [14]. Latex is polymer particles in water.
    • Styrene Butadiene Latex (SBL). See difference between Styrene Butadiene Rubber and Styrene Butadiene Latex [15]. Sourcing - [16] - 30% by weight SBL. 150-250 sf coverage. Can be used as primer for glue? Data Sheet - [17]. Sourcing - [18]
    • Polyvinyl Acetate Latex
    • Acrylic Latex. Ex - MAPEI [19], cement additive - [20]