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*$28 for 10Ah, 1.2V - $2.30/watt [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001604728890.html?src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=9594035441&albag=102695258807&trgt=374448549250&crea=en1005001604728890&netw=u&device=c&albpg=374448549250&albpd=en1005001604728890&gclid=CjwKCAiAmrOBBhA0EiwArn3mfGDdh-Pv1mlmxRanriQ_10ao_ZvhImeLA2b3ypObdGLC17kqX8OFjRoCbRIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds] | *$28 for 10Ah, 1.2V - $2.30/watt [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001604728890.html?src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&isdl=y&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&aff_platform=google&aff_short_key=UneMJZVf&&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=9594035441&albag=102695258807&trgt=374448549250&crea=en1005001604728890&netw=u&device=c&albpg=374448549250&albpd=en1005001604728890&gclid=CjwKCAiAmrOBBhA0EiwArn3mfGDdh-Pv1mlmxRanriQ_10ao_ZvhImeLA2b3ypObdGLC17kqX8OFjRoCbRIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds] | ||
*$1.5/W - Ebay - [https://www.ebay.com/itm/143662910977?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=143662910977&targetid=1068323853030&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9023315&poi=&campaignid=10459842387&mkgroupid=104612011100&rlsatarget=pla-1068323853030&abcId=2146002&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAiAmrOBBhA0EiwArn3mfCknVceF4eLH3lCtXvT3CxLQwi8V7mTox7f-6HTUwX5Z7D5Hx3Kl3RoCHP8QAvD_BwE] | *$1.5/W - Ebay - [https://www.ebay.com/itm/143662910977?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=143662910977&targetid=1068323853030&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9023315&poi=&campaignid=10459842387&mkgroupid=104612011100&rlsatarget=pla-1068323853030&abcId=2146002&merchantid=6296724&gclid=CjwKCAiAmrOBBhA0EiwArn3mfCknVceF4eLH3lCtXvT3CxLQwi8V7mTox7f-6HTUwX5Z7D5Hx3Kl3RoCHP8QAvD_BwE] | ||
*92 cents/watt - [https://ironedison.com/nickel-iron-ni-fe-battery] | *Iron Edison - 92 cents/watt - [https://ironedison.com/nickel-iron-ni-fe-battery] | ||
*$12k for 19.2kw - 62 cents from China | |||
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===nickel powder=== | ===nickel powder=== | ||
*http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10421/SLN2422 | *http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10421/SLN2422 | ||
*http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/SLN1468 | *http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/SLN1468 | ||
Latest revision as of 19:30, 23 June 2021
Off-the Shelf Sourcing
- Alibaba, 36 cent/watt, MOQ 20, 1200Ah cells. [1]
- 44 cent/watt, 300Ahr bats, MOQ 40 [2]
- $28 for 10Ah, 1.2V - $2.30/watt [3]
- $1.5/W - Ebay - [4]
- Iron Edison - 92 cents/watt - [5]
- $12k for 19.2kw - 62 cents from China
provisional bom (0.1)
nickel
- Commodity price - $6lb - [6]
- Nickels - [7]
- http://coppercave.com/copper/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=8
- http://m.grainger.com/mobile/search/nickel-copper-tubing/pipe-and-tubing/plumbing/ecatalog/N-a9v?an_lnk=idpmore
- http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AM96R60/ref=biss_dp_sa1
- http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-nickel-sheets/=m093e4
- http://www.advent-rm.com/catalogue/lines.aspx?criteria=materialform&materialid=30&formid=4
- http://www.fusionbeads.com/3x3-inch-24-Gauge-Nickel-Sheet-Metal
- http://mtixtl.com/nickelfoil0.025mmthickx150mmwidthx5000mmlength-eq-nfoil-25u.aspx
nickel powder
- http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/10421/SLN2422
- http://www.sciencelab.com/page/S/PVAR/SLN1468
- http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/283622?lang=en®ion=US
nickel flake
https://www.alfa.com/en/catalog/13788
wire
http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/search.html?category=Special_Metal_Wire
ebay
- 23awg
- 26awg
- 28awg
- 30awg
potassium hydroxide KOH
http://www.essentialdepot.com/servlet/the-13/2-lbs-Potassium-Hydroxide/Detail
http://www.dudadiesel.com/choose_item.php?id=45drhdp&gclid=CKuCgNKZrrYCFYFxQgodlFgA2Q
iron
- 24 cents per pound commodity price - [8]
- http://www.mcmaster.com/#iron-sheets/=m85x65
- http://www.amazon.com/Black-Iron-Oxide-Natural-Pounds/dp/B008LE63H6/
hard ware
http://www.mouser.com/Connectors/Terminals/_/N-5g5u/
accessories
http://flowsystemsusa.com/water-miser-vent-cap.html
China Sourcing
- $32 for 100Wh - 80Ah bat cells- [9]
- This means 4kW would be $1280, causing an energy transition to off grid.
- 800Ah - weighs 57 kg. [10]
- 1200Ah for $200 each? [11]. That would be $140/kw, unreal. Table says 62kg filled. If weight in nickel is 1/5, that is only 12kg nickel. So the price would be $120 in materials. They are selling at $140.
Other from China Sourcing
- http://www.beutilityfree.com/index.php/products/nickel-iron-batteries/nickel-iron-testimonials - from thread at [12] which estimates that a 1800Whr system has $600 of nickel in it. Good thread - says these batteries really work and are robust. You can replace cells easily, not like with lead acid.
- IronEdison
- Zappworks -
- Australia - Ironcore - [13]
Notes
- Nickel-Iron Battery/Sourcing - more info on nickel hydrate
- Nickel is 20% of the battery - [14]
- If nickel is 1/5 the battery, and nickel is $6/lb raw - then price of battery is $1/lb based on nickel cost. Thus a 50 kg battery should be $100 in materials only. If nickel hydrate was obtained readily from nickel.