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*Does not work well because it will stick, but contraction will easily break the glue - [https://www.quora.com/Does-super-glue-stick-to-rubber-Why-or-why-not#:~:text=Yes%2C%20super%20glue%20will%20stick,is%20a%20material%20science%20defn)%20.&text=The%20rubber%20has%20a%20high,base%20material's%20elongation%20or%20movement.] | *Does not work well because it will stick, but contraction will easily break the glue - [https://www.quora.com/Does-super-glue-stick-to-rubber-Why-or-why-not#:~:text=Yes%2C%20super%20glue%20will%20stick,is%20a%20material%20science%20defn)%20.&text=The%20rubber%20has%20a%20high,base%20material's%20elongation%20or%20movement.] | ||
*Use rubbery solvent glues. | **-> '''Use rubbery (Styrene Butadiene Latex) solvent glues'''. Solvents soften the EPDM, styrene butadiene bonds. | ||
=Sourcing= | =Sourcing= | ||
*Menards - $150 - [https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/roofing/low-slope-roofing/epdm-rubber-roofing-contact-adhesive-5-gallon/7-1502611-1/p-1444444064529.htm] | |||
*5 gallons, $121 - 60 sf/gal - is this really CA glue? [https://www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=19595]. $71 shipping. | *5 gallons, $121 - 60 sf/gal - is this really CA glue? [https://www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=19595]. $71 shipping. | ||
*5 gal, 60 CA Adhesive, $250 - [https://pack-n-tape.com/3M-60CA-Scotch-Weld-General-Purpose-60-CA-Adhesive-Clear-5-gal-Pail-1-per-case-Bulk-NOT-FOR-CONSUMER-RETAIL-SALE-OR-USE.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw6fCCBhBNEiwAem5SO4N3BMPGhmQCbzInkElI55_-qYKAwsnUz-ezVLNz5hCuuvVwtvuM1RoCzW4QAvD_BwE#product-details-tab-specification] | *5 gal, 60 CA Adhesive, $250 - [https://pack-n-tape.com/3M-60CA-Scotch-Weld-General-Purpose-60-CA-Adhesive-Clear-5-gal-Pail-1-per-case-Bulk-NOT-FOR-CONSUMER-RETAIL-SALE-OR-USE.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw6fCCBhBNEiwAem5SO4N3BMPGhmQCbzInkElI55_-qYKAwsnUz-ezVLNz5hCuuvVwtvuM1RoCzW4QAvD_BwE#product-details-tab-specification] | ||
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**Acrylic Latex. Ex - MAPEI [https://cdnmedia.mapei.com/docs/librariesprovider10/products-documents/3000192-polymer-additive-en.pdf?sfvrsn=daea732b_0], cement additive - [https://www.lowes.com/pd/MAPEI-2-Gallon-White-Liquid-Latex-Mortar-Additive-Mortar/3743849] | **Acrylic Latex. Ex - MAPEI [https://cdnmedia.mapei.com/docs/librariesprovider10/products-documents/3000192-polymer-additive-en.pdf?sfvrsn=daea732b_0], cement additive - [https://www.lowes.com/pd/MAPEI-2-Gallon-White-Liquid-Latex-Mortar-Additive-Mortar/3743849] | ||
*Polyvinyl acetate is wood glue, Elmer's glue [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate] | *Polyvinyl acetate is wood glue, Elmer's glue [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate] | ||
*What is plastidip made of? Sorry sucka, that's secret. [https://www.reddit.com/r/chemistry/comments/1l6nv1/what_is_plasti_dip/] | |||
Latest revision as of 02:37, 9 August 2021
Problem Statement
- Gluing rubber, such as EPDM.
- Contact cement works on EPDM - [1]. Customer says this is 'closest to ideal' for EPDM on metal [2]
- DAP 234 is essentially toluene, hexane, acetone with some dissolved rubber.
- Dissolved rubber is polychlorinated rubber, the thing of rubber paint [3]
- What is solvent of rubber paint? Toluene and xylene - [4]
- Dissolved rubber - LionGuard [5] - for EPDM it's dissolved neoprene, in aromatics and ketone? Yes, same as DAP 123 (aromatics + acetone ketone).
Types of Glues
- Structural acrylic glues work - Permabond TA4605 and Permabond TA4610 structural acrylic adhesives - [6]
AKA Crazy Glue
- Wikipedia - CA -
- Does not work well because it will stick, but contraction will easily break the glue - [7]
- -> Use rubbery (Styrene Butadiene Latex) solvent glues. Solvents soften the EPDM, styrene butadiene bonds.
Sourcing
- Menards - $150 - [8]
- 5 gallons, $121 - 60 sf/gal - is this really CA glue? [9]. $71 shipping.
- 5 gal, 60 CA Adhesive, $250 - [10]
EPDM Solvents
- N-hexane, toluene. Benzene, pentane. Toluene is best [11]
- Toluene - $20/gal - [12]
- Gasoline, diesel, oil eats EPDM - [13]
Notes
- EPDM is not neoprene [14]
- Latex bonding agents - [15]. Latex is polymer particles in water.
- Styrene Butadiene Latex (SBL). See difference between Styrene Butadiene Rubber and Styrene Butadiene Latex [16]. Sourcing - [17] - 30% by weight SBL. 150-250 sf coverage. Can be used as primer for glue? Data Sheet - [18]. Sourcing - [19]
- Polyvinyl Acetate Latex
- Acrylic Latex. Ex - MAPEI [20], cement additive - [21]
- Polyvinyl acetate is wood glue, Elmer's glue [22]
- What is plastidip made of? Sorry sucka, that's secret. [23]