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=About= | |||
*Siliates uses brochure - [https://www.pqcorp.com/docs/default-source/recommended-literature/pq-corporation/lithium-silicate/sodium-and-potassium-silicates-brochure-eng-oct-2004.pdf?sfvrsn=d22426fb_3] | |||
*Silicate mineral paints - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate_mineral_paint | *Silicate mineral paints - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate_mineral_paint | ||
*German manufacturer discussses 3 generations of this paint - [https://www.keim-usa.com/portals/0/app/clientresources/documents/125%20Yr%20Brochure.pdf] | *German manufacturer discussses 3 generations of this paint - [https://www.keim-usa.com/portals/0/app/clientresources/documents/125%20Yr%20Brochure.pdf] | ||
*Impregnate with silicate, and preferably also soluble borate - then treat with carbon dioxide - to make wood fireproof - [https://www.google.com/patents/US3306765] | |||
*Silicate preservation patents - [https://encrypted.google.com/patents/EP0636461A1?cl=und] | |||
:*Paint with sodium metasilicate, followed by magnsium sulphate (epsom salt) | |||
:*'''Paint with sodium metasilicate, followed by calcium chloride''' (deice salt, [https://www.lowes.com/pd/50-lb-Bag-of-Calcium-Chloride-Pellets/3540820 $20 for 50 lb] - patent [https://encrypted.google.com/patents/US3974318]. After applying the silicate and chloride, the product is calcium silicate, which is insoluble. This should be doable at room temperature [https://www.google.com/patents/US2204113]. One should be done after the other, as you want the reaction to happen inside the wood fibers. | |||
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*Sodium silicate reacts with the calcium hydroxide in hydrated cement paste to form calcium-silicate-hydrate gel that fills cracks. (google it). Thus, if we paint the wood with cement, and then with sodium silicate - we may get a waterproof cement coating. This may be worth trying as well. | |||
*Silicate also reacts with lime to make calcium silicate - making a protective shell that is still breathable. [https://books.google.com/books?id=tJG8z2hgNMcC&pg=PA396&lpg=PA396&dq=cement+waterglass+paint&source=bl&ots=upRsevq8qV&sig=aq0_CdXy6YfzMaHHACks3VL0ubY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi7kJ7U7qTZAhXNt1MKHdIoBdoQ6AEIhwEwDw#v=onepage&q=cement%20waterglass%20paint&f=false] | |||
=Designing the Paint= | =Designing the Paint= | ||
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*Sodium silicate preserves wood - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_preservation#Sodium_silicate-based_preservatives]. Open source this. | *Sodium silicate preserves wood - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_preservation#Sodium_silicate-based_preservatives]. Open source this. | ||
=Sourcing= | =Sourcing= | ||
*'''$5/lb for 2.5 lb''' - [https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sodium-Metasilicate-2-5-Lb-Pack-9787/192443870706?epid=1023871289&hash=item2cce8c6df2:g:yW8AAOSwr0hZzqE4] | |||
*Sodium metasilicate. $2/lb for 50 lb bag. [https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sodium-Metasilicate-ANHYDROUS-99-Minimum-Purity-50LB-BAG/272665112974?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3D800fc42341034d1d9b4c888136548512%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D30%26sd%3D282442061213%26itm%3D272665112974&_trksid=p2385738.c100677.m4598] | |||
*Potassium silicate - <$1/lb on ton scale - [https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/soluble-potassium-silicate_60524316266.html?spm=a2700.7724857/A.main07.145.22071266unnwcL] | |||
*Sodium silicate - $200/ton - [https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/sodium-silicate_60593718760.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.55.7dd56732ljmc0P&s=p] | *Sodium silicate - $200/ton - [https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/sodium-silicate_60593718760.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.55.7dd56732ljmc0P&s=p] | ||
*But wikipedia says that Minaral [[Silicate Paint]] uses potassium silicate. -[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_silicate] | *But wikipedia says that Minaral [[Silicate Paint]] uses potassium silicate. -[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_silicate] | ||
*Potassium metasilicate. $5/lb in 50 lb bags - [https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&biw=1438&bih=815&tbm=shop&ei=gsqDWs67IqqwjwS6gYXIBg&q=agsil+16h+50+lb+bag&oq=agsil+16h+50+lb+bag&gs_l=psy-ab.3...28952.32403.0.32679.11.10.1.0.0.0.211.1075.0j7j1.8.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..2.0.0....0.CnYpAzrpHeU#spd=13988129009345149736] | |||
*$35 for a gallon of 40% solution on Amazon - [https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Silicate-40-Water-Glass/dp/B00QL4ZV0I/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?s=arts-crafts&ie=UTF8&qid=1518587733&sr=1-2-fkmr0&keywords=potassium+silicate] | |||
=Making= | |||
*You can make it from potash (KOH) reacted with silica desiccant beads - [https://www.popsci.com/cook-ultra-strong-water-glass-instead-glue] | |||
=Buying= | =Buying= | ||
*https://www.keim.com/en-de/products/wood-coating/ | *https://www.keim.com/en-de/products/wood-coating/ | ||
=Other Methods= | |||
*Acetylation makes wood last for ever - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_preservation. | |||
:*Acetic anhydride - autoclave treatment of wood - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetic_anhydride#Applications]. It is used to make heroin, so it may be restricted. | |||
:*Article on acetylated wood - [https://cen.acs.org/articles/90/i32/Making-Wood-Last-Forever-Acetylation.html] | |||
:*55 gallons for $3k - [http://www.rightpricechemicals.com/buy-acetic-anhydride-reagent-acs.html] | |||
=Links= | |||
*[[Silicate Mineral Paint]] | |||
[[Category: Paints]] | |||
Latest revision as of 22:00, 2 September 2023
About
- Siliates uses brochure - [1]
- Silicate mineral paints - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate_mineral_paint
- German manufacturer discussses 3 generations of this paint - [2]
- Impregnate with silicate, and preferably also soluble borate - then treat with carbon dioxide - to make wood fireproof - [3]
- Silicate preservation patents - [4]
- Paint with sodium metasilicate, followed by magnsium sulphate (epsom salt)
- Paint with sodium metasilicate, followed by calcium chloride (deice salt, $20 for 50 lb - patent [5]. After applying the silicate and chloride, the product is calcium silicate, which is insoluble. This should be doable at room temperature [6]. One should be done after the other, as you want the reaction to happen inside the wood fibers.
- Sodium silicate reacts with the calcium hydroxide in hydrated cement paste to form calcium-silicate-hydrate gel that fills cracks. (google it). Thus, if we paint the wood with cement, and then with sodium silicate - we may get a waterproof cement coating. This may be worth trying as well.
- Silicate also reacts with lime to make calcium silicate - making a protective shell that is still breathable. [7]
Designing the Paint
- How sodium silicate has been used in wood prervation from prior art of a recent patent - [8]
- Sodium silicate preserves wood - [9]. Open source this.
Sourcing
- $5/lb for 2.5 lb - [10]
- Sodium metasilicate. $2/lb for 50 lb bag. [11]
- Potassium silicate - <$1/lb on ton scale - [12]
- Sodium silicate - $200/ton - [13]
- But wikipedia says that Minaral Silicate Paint uses potassium silicate. -[14]
- Potassium metasilicate. $5/lb in 50 lb bags - [15]
- $35 for a gallon of 40% solution on Amazon - [16]
Making
- You can make it from potash (KOH) reacted with silica desiccant beads - [17]
Buying
Other Methods
- Acetylation makes wood last for ever - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_preservation.