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{{Hint|Current OSE strategy for 24v is: (1) 24v power supply; (2) cut off diode on RAMPS to stop 24V from going into Arduino Mega; (3) feed power to Arduino with 5V wall wart and USB A to B cable; (4) power the SSR with 5V that feeds from this wall wart via Auxiliary Pins -> upper part of Green Power Plug (normally 12V - it feeds into the D8 internally) -> D8 terminals  -> SSR}}
=Working Doc=
=Working Doc=
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=Intro=
=Intro=
*Simple - just cut off Arduino power, but need to feed Arduino with power in a different way. If using external heat bed mosfet - no other change needed. Still need to power through heat bed part with 12V - but that power is minimal.
*Cut off Arduino power, but need to feed Arduino with power in a different way.  
 
*If using external heat bed mosfet - no other change needed.
http://www.mythoughtspot.com/2017/09/18/modify-ramps-for-24-volts/
*http://www.mythoughtspot.com/2017/09/18/modify-ramps-for-24-volts/
 
*https://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS_24v
https://reprap.org/wiki/RAMPS_24v


=Do Stepper Motors Work Better at Higher Voltage?=
=Do Stepper Motors Work Better at Higher Voltage?=
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*Power of a stepper is constant - if power is torque x velocity, then torque decreases with higher velocity
*Power of a stepper is constant - if power is torque x velocity, then torque decreases with higher velocity
*The mechanism for loss of torque is back EMF from inductance and back EMF from rotation
*The mechanism for loss of torque is back EMF from inductance and back EMF from rotation
*With high velocity, back EMF of inductance is significant as a fraction of motor power. At high enough speed, inductance overtakes and motor stalls. This is the region when higher voltage allows stepper motor to overcome the effect of inductance. So at Max speed - higher voltage produces more torque for anstepper motor.
*With high velocity, back EMF of inductance is significant as a fraction of motor power. At high enough speed, inductance overtakes and motor stalls. This is the region when higher voltage allows stepper motor to overcome the effect of inductance. So at Max speed - higher voltage produces more torque for a stepper motor.


=BOM=
=BOM=
*[[24V Power Supply]]
*24V to 12V converter - 5A for using 12v heaters, fans - [https://www.amazon.com/EPBOWPT-Converter-Regulator-Module-Transformer/dp/B01LY4RANA/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1545426914&sr=8-13&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=5A+24+to+12v+converter]
*24V to 12V converter - 5A for using 12v heaters, fans - [https://www.amazon.com/EPBOWPT-Converter-Regulator-Module-Transformer/dp/B01LY4RANA/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1545426914&sr=8-13&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=5A+24+to+12v+converter]
*$14 for 10A - [https://www.amazon.com/Converter-Regulator-Reducer-Waterproof-SupplyTransformer/dp/B0756W6V4F?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4]
*$14 for 10A - [https://www.amazon.com/Converter-Regulator-Reducer-Waterproof-SupplyTransformer/dp/B0756W6V4F?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4]
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==Replace Automotive Fuse==
==Replace Automotive Fuse==
See at minute 1:
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==Use Ferrules==
==Use Ferrules==
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=Links=
*[[RAMPS]]

Latest revision as of 09:36, 30 June 2020


HintLightbulb.png Hint: Current OSE strategy for 24v is: (1) 24v power supply; (2) cut off diode on RAMPS to stop 24V from going into Arduino Mega; (3) feed power to Arduino with 5V wall wart and USB A to B cable; (4) power the SSR with 5V that feeds from this wall wart via Auxiliary Pins -> upper part of Green Power Plug (normally 12V - it feeds into the D8 internally) -> D8 terminals -> SSR

Working Doc

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Intro

Do Stepper Motors Work Better at Higher Voltage?

  • Steppers have less torque at higher speed
  • Power of a stepper is constant - if power is torque x velocity, then torque decreases with higher velocity
  • The mechanism for loss of torque is back EMF from inductance and back EMF from rotation
  • With high velocity, back EMF of inductance is significant as a fraction of motor power. At high enough speed, inductance overtakes and motor stalls. This is the region when higher voltage allows stepper motor to overcome the effect of inductance. So at Max speed - higher voltage produces more torque for a stepper motor.

BOM

Videos

Cut Off D1 Diode

Replace Automotive Fuse

See at minute 1:

Use Ferrules

Links