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*A Device that Dramatically Improves the Brightness of Flame Based [[Lanterns]] / [[Lamps]]
*A Device that Dramatically Improves the Brightness of Flame Based [[Lanterns]] / [[Lamps]]
*Mainly:
*Mainly:
**[[Gas Lamps]] (Traditionally [[Town Gas]] ,  but now mainly [[Methane]] , or [[Propane]] ,  or [[White Gas]] )
**[[Gas Lamps]] (Traditionally [[Town Gas]] ,  but now mainly [[Methane]] , or [[Propane]] )
***These should also run off of [[DME]] ,  experimentation needed with [[Syngas]] ,  [[Hydrogen]] ,  and Raw [[Biogas]] (Sulfur Deposits / [[SOx Emissions]] ?)
***These should also run off of [[DME]] ,  experimentation needed with [[Syngas]] ,  [[Hydrogen]] ,  and Raw [[Biogas]] (Sulfur Deposits / [[SOx Emissions]] ?)
**[[Pressurized Liquid Fuel Lanterns]] ( [[Kerosene Lanterns]] / [[White Gas Lanterns]] )
**[[Pressurized Liquid Fuel Lanterns]] ( [[Kerosene Lanterns]] / [[White Gas Lanterns]] )
***Experimentation needed with running these off of various [[Alcohols]]
***Experimentation needed with running these off of various [[Alcohols]]
*They work via using the flame to heat [[Incandescent Materials]] and/or [[Candoluminescent Materials]] that are formed in a mesh "mantle"
*They work via using the flame to heat [[Incandescent Materials]] and/or [[Candoluminescent Materials]] that are chosen for their high light output and/or white light output (Akin to gas Mixtures in [[Plasma Lamps]] )
*Thus rather than optimizing a flame for brightness, the flame can be adapted for Clean Combustion / Efficiency (Needs Clarification Between the Two)
*The mantles are made via some sort of [[Gauze]] / [[Mesh]] of a cloth, typically [[Rayon]] or [[Nitrocellulose]] although other options exist
*Reduces [[Indoor Air Pollution]] [[Where Fueled Lanterns are Still used for Indoor Lighting]] ( <- Make page on areas where electric lighting is not accessible etc)
**A Tie String / [[Tie Wire]] is typically added, although clips and/or Pre-Attatched Metal or Ceramic Mounting Brackets also exist
*Cone or Thimble Shaped Mantles are most common, however Coleman came out with “Northstar” Mantle Lanterns which utilized a Tubular Lantern Amchored on Each End
**The tubular mantle has the advantage of needed little processing other than being taken off the [[Circular Knitting Machine]] and having the seams/mounting points attatched (if they are not designed into the knitting pattern)
*Thus rather than optimizing a flame for brightness, the flame can be adapted for Clean Combustion / Efficiency  
**Research into Premixed Combustion and Air Fuel Ratio’s Impact on Emissions is worthwhile
**Also Light Production vs Emissions;  [[Candle]] flames, and [[Carbide Lamps]] partially require [[Particulate Matter]] as the Candoluminescent Media
**As with [[Lean Burn Internal Combustion Engines]] ,  A Leaner Flame may be more efficient, but this may produce less light / increase emissions (again further testing required)


=Can One Be Designed Using Only [[Appropriate Materials]] =
=Design=
*Most Commercial Options Use [[Thorium dioxide]]
==Mantle Dopants==
*Most Commercial Options Used [[Thorium dioxide]]
**99% thorium dioxide and 1% cerium dioxide
*Due to the challenges of working with Radioactive Materials (especially in Powder Form, re [[Fugitive Dust Emissions]] ) most companies changed formulas over to nonradioactive (yet still not exactly [[Appropriate Materials]] ) Yttrium / Cerium Salts
**There was SOME concern about Consumer Radiation Exposure, but the production of [[Radon Gas]] was minimal/would diffuse in an outdoor/well ventilated environment
**As with [[Americium]] smoke detectors etc, due to Aplha Particles having poor penetration power, radiation risk is minimal short of ingestion/inhalation
***The exposure to Radioactive Dust in terms of “Burnt In” mantles disintegrating etc is quite valid though
 
===Current “State of the Art” Non-Radioactive Mixes===
*Figuring out what Current / Before being cancelled due to low sales etc Coleman / Other Lantern Mantles used for dopants is a worthwhile endeavor
*Also reverse engineering mesh size / composition would be of use
*Supposedly the “Aladin Lamps”, which were slightly hotter but otherwise conventional [[Oil Lamps]] that used mantles, were potentially coated in [[Collodion]] / Nitrocellulose which aided in their pre-burn in rigidity, and aided in a successful “burn in” (ie easy to light + less chance of implosion/tear and thus a failed burn in)
 
==Potential Novel Improvements==
===To Dopant Mix===
*Using less scarce materials would be great;  the temperature may not be high enough, but attempting a [[Limelight]] but via Gas Mantle would be interesting
*Probably wouldn’t work, but in search of novel materials could [[Quantum Dots]] work?
*If not other salts that may not give white light, but would give bright enough light
*Something akin to an “adjuvant” that doesn’t produce light, but helps maintain mesh stability/rigidity may be worth looking into, Ceramic Powders etc
 
===To Cloth Structure===
*Aforementioned Collodion
*Variations in Mesh Size/Form
*If using a Northstar style tubular mantle, optimal tube length vs light output etc
*Design for Burn-In Shrinkage
 
===Non-Consumable Mantles===
*Stainless Steel Mesh WITHOUT Dopants has been used, albeit very dim
*Stainless Steel Coated in a Heavy Dopant to Ceramic Slurry Mix MAY work as a Durable Permanent Mantle (this may be limited by higher Thermal Mass / Less Surface Area of Dopants, but further experimentation required)
*LVP / [[Resin 3D Printing]] with [[Ceramic Resin]] of the aforementioned high dopant ceramic mix could allow for 3D Printed Gas Mantles
**While less strong, these would have less thermal mass/could be made far thinner
*Encased/Encapsulated Mantles
**One Forum Post described putting a metal mesh around torn up mantles, this worked about half as well supposedly as a PROPER mantle, but would be far more rugged
***A design reminiscent of a Pebble Bed Nuclear Reactor but with [[Optically Transparent Synthetic Diamond]] coated salt pellets would be one HELL of an engineering challenge, but could potentially work!
****Stuffed tubes, potentially made of Glass or Synthetic [[Sapphire]] are a similar level of outlandish but may work
*[[Porous Gas Burner]] technology, but doped with the same mix
**If done with the coated metal mesh, or a porous ceramic brick doped to the right extent, this may allow for LED Like Flat Emitters, but Gas Powered
 
===Mounting Mechanism===
*Having a [[Cam Lock]] type mechanism, or some sort of other improved metal or ceramic ring (especially in portable devices) would be novel


=Internal Links=
=Internal Links=
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3rncxf4Or8 A Video by the YouTube Channel "[[Technology Connections]]" Titled "How the gas mantle made lamps 10X brighter" ]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3rncxf4Or8 A Video by the YouTube Channel "[[Technology Connections]]" Titled "How the gas mantle made lamps 10X brighter" ]
*[http://www.oilfieldwiki.com/wiki/Gas_mantle The [[Oil Field Wiki]] Page on Gas Mantles]
*[http://www.oilfieldwiki.com/wiki/Gas_mantle The [[Oil Field Wiki]] Page on Gas Mantles]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20160418005241/http://homepage.ntlworld.com/munwai/history.htm A [[Wayback Machine]] Archive of the Page "Pressure Lamps International A Brief History of the Incandescent Mantle Pressure Lamp"]


[[Category: Bio-Petrochemistry]] [[Category: Lighting]]
[[Category: Bio-Petrochemistry]] [[Category: Lighting]]

Latest revision as of 23:25, 30 September 2025

Basics

  • A Device that Dramatically Improves the Brightness of Flame Based Lanterns / Lamps
  • Mainly:
  • They work via using the flame to heat Incandescent Materials and/or Candoluminescent Materials that are chosen for their high light output and/or white light output (Akin to gas Mixtures in Plasma Lamps )
  • The mantles are made via some sort of Gauze / Mesh of a cloth, typically Rayon or Nitrocellulose although other options exist
    • A Tie String / Tie Wire is typically added, although clips and/or Pre-Attatched Metal or Ceramic Mounting Brackets also exist
  • Cone or Thimble Shaped Mantles are most common, however Coleman came out with “Northstar” Mantle Lanterns which utilized a Tubular Lantern Amchored on Each End
    • The tubular mantle has the advantage of needed little processing other than being taken off the Circular Knitting Machine and having the seams/mounting points attatched (if they are not designed into the knitting pattern)
  • Thus rather than optimizing a flame for brightness, the flame can be adapted for Clean Combustion / Efficiency
    • Research into Premixed Combustion and Air Fuel Ratio’s Impact on Emissions is worthwhile
    • Also Light Production vs Emissions; Candle flames, and Carbide Lamps partially require Particulate Matter as the Candoluminescent Media
    • As with Lean Burn Internal Combustion Engines , A Leaner Flame may be more efficient, but this may produce less light / increase emissions (again further testing required)

Design

Mantle Dopants

  • Most Commercial Options Used Thorium dioxide
    • 99% thorium dioxide and 1% cerium dioxide
  • Due to the challenges of working with Radioactive Materials (especially in Powder Form, re Fugitive Dust Emissions ) most companies changed formulas over to nonradioactive (yet still not exactly Appropriate Materials ) Yttrium / Cerium Salts
    • There was SOME concern about Consumer Radiation Exposure, but the production of Radon Gas was minimal/would diffuse in an outdoor/well ventilated environment
    • As with Americium smoke detectors etc, due to Aplha Particles having poor penetration power, radiation risk is minimal short of ingestion/inhalation
      • The exposure to Radioactive Dust in terms of “Burnt In” mantles disintegrating etc is quite valid though

Current “State of the Art” Non-Radioactive Mixes

  • Figuring out what Current / Before being cancelled due to low sales etc Coleman / Other Lantern Mantles used for dopants is a worthwhile endeavor
  • Also reverse engineering mesh size / composition would be of use
  • Supposedly the “Aladin Lamps”, which were slightly hotter but otherwise conventional Oil Lamps that used mantles, were potentially coated in Collodion / Nitrocellulose which aided in their pre-burn in rigidity, and aided in a successful “burn in” (ie easy to light + less chance of implosion/tear and thus a failed burn in)

Potential Novel Improvements

To Dopant Mix

  • Using less scarce materials would be great; the temperature may not be high enough, but attempting a Limelight but via Gas Mantle would be interesting
  • Probably wouldn’t work, but in search of novel materials could Quantum Dots work?
  • If not other salts that may not give white light, but would give bright enough light
  • Something akin to an “adjuvant” that doesn’t produce light, but helps maintain mesh stability/rigidity may be worth looking into, Ceramic Powders etc

To Cloth Structure

  • Aforementioned Collodion
  • Variations in Mesh Size/Form
  • If using a Northstar style tubular mantle, optimal tube length vs light output etc
  • Design for Burn-In Shrinkage

Non-Consumable Mantles

  • Stainless Steel Mesh WITHOUT Dopants has been used, albeit very dim
  • Stainless Steel Coated in a Heavy Dopant to Ceramic Slurry Mix MAY work as a Durable Permanent Mantle (this may be limited by higher Thermal Mass / Less Surface Area of Dopants, but further experimentation required)
  • LVP / Resin 3D Printing with Ceramic Resin of the aforementioned high dopant ceramic mix could allow for 3D Printed Gas Mantles
    • While less strong, these would have less thermal mass/could be made far thinner
  • Encased/Encapsulated Mantles
    • One Forum Post described putting a metal mesh around torn up mantles, this worked about half as well supposedly as a PROPER mantle, but would be far more rugged
      • A design reminiscent of a Pebble Bed Nuclear Reactor but with Optically Transparent Synthetic Diamond coated salt pellets would be one HELL of an engineering challenge, but could potentially work!
        • Stuffed tubes, potentially made of Glass or Synthetic Sapphire are a similar level of outlandish but may work
  • Porous Gas Burner technology, but doped with the same mix
    • If done with the coated metal mesh, or a porous ceramic brick doped to the right extent, this may allow for LED Like Flat Emitters, but Gas Powered

Mounting Mechanism

  • Having a Cam Lock type mechanism, or some sort of other improved metal or ceramic ring (especially in portable devices) would be novel

Internal Links

External Links