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*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/325781944824?itmmeta=01HSEPP60WQRRKWS9ZZ3NA1DGG&hash=item4bda1df9f8:g:JY0AAOSwyGZk4pL3&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4GS7s8Mf0hbulXFUXaJqCjHvbc3hH%2FRSICNqtwRHyX6fPQAhMD1czoDR4JcVeSK3BawbrCfeWvQtJwBLN2bMZEdTV4jGFICCV3fcbXl4nPwizNKibsqK8hgdZF2uf8Rkbzikx%2BwhD%2BIGbhYuKzUgxSrEYljDDmd%2Bzj0iXN5ja04DG4o7as58IBCwNye4VEutDCQ%2F2pQH0LEqCL10yKBzOq2DdA5IwVTIHwShtu%2FD07QFgrHnA0heQf2UUVzSxJ6Ql5Q5idcbG5jm8EdHhUcU2Tx1SjsNVTq35FHw41hA9BeL%7Ctkp%3ABFBMwuDY1stj A 4101 Selling for '''~587 USD''' ](or ''lower'', given there isn't a PILE of demand trying to get it for lower potentially, granted some resellers being greedy may ruin things as per usual potentially)
*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/325781944824?itmmeta=01HSEPP60WQRRKWS9ZZ3NA1DGG&hash=item4bda1df9f8:g:JY0AAOSwyGZk4pL3&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4GS7s8Mf0hbulXFUXaJqCjHvbc3hH%2FRSICNqtwRHyX6fPQAhMD1czoDR4JcVeSK3BawbrCfeWvQtJwBLN2bMZEdTV4jGFICCV3fcbXl4nPwizNKibsqK8hgdZF2uf8Rkbzikx%2BwhD%2BIGbhYuKzUgxSrEYljDDmd%2Bzj0iXN5ja04DG4o7as58IBCwNye4VEutDCQ%2F2pQH0LEqCL10yKBzOq2DdA5IwVTIHwShtu%2FD07QFgrHnA0heQf2UUVzSxJ6Ql5Q5idcbG5jm8EdHhUcU2Tx1SjsNVTq35FHw41hA9BeL%7Ctkp%3ABFBMwuDY1stj A 4101 Selling for '''~587 USD''' ](or ''lower'', given there isn't a PILE of demand trying to get it for lower potentially, granted some resellers being greedy may ruin things as per usual potentially)
*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/256366233300?itmmeta=01HSEPP60W49T2KMZDQ2R4DC42&hash=item3bb09e46d4:g:wYcAAOSw1W1k32Yy&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4PMMl2fWmZFqpaYBL%2B1jJdnFjc6h%2Bpr5vdSvPeNlxaaXdmURozotkJYugrwxut4j45knJJv0eedPy%2Boehg%2BzWx61QiXkK4CnHKGxsQaFxHNQHoq7Ws7eDq%2Fc6m6q%2Bi%2BesFXhoXh7qba6Yh%2Bo%2Bo80yxJZ8QECrzEYAnXd7xwZF9QGDp9X98VnHyJ8d0fxm9U5tfkig%2BnfA3OVFEnBxlg3erXpVamxlxsIEE9qqQONKBS9deLtCYmhSVHszvyHNgZRJXcQOCIUhk2zbeiWA31Xvs0%2FJA7KZ7W%2Bm9eUedy5ARRM%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8Lg2NbLYw PRIMERA BRAVO 4051 DISC PUBLISHER 4100 SERIES] going for '''150 USD''' or best offer (Plus shipping, in my case 50 usd supposedly)  
*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/256366233300?itmmeta=01HSEPP60W49T2KMZDQ2R4DC42&hash=item3bb09e46d4:g:wYcAAOSw1W1k32Yy&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4PMMl2fWmZFqpaYBL%2B1jJdnFjc6h%2Bpr5vdSvPeNlxaaXdmURozotkJYugrwxut4j45knJJv0eedPy%2Boehg%2BzWx61QiXkK4CnHKGxsQaFxHNQHoq7Ws7eDq%2Fc6m6q%2Bi%2BesFXhoXh7qba6Yh%2Bo%2Bo80yxJZ8QECrzEYAnXd7xwZF9QGDp9X98VnHyJ8d0fxm9U5tfkig%2BnfA3OVFEnBxlg3erXpVamxlxsIEE9qqQONKBS9deLtCYmhSVHszvyHNgZRJXcQOCIUhk2zbeiWA31Xvs0%2FJA7KZ7W%2Bm9eUedy5ARRM%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8Lg2NbLYw PRIMERA BRAVO 4051 DISC PUBLISHER 4100 SERIES] going for '''150 USD''' or best offer (Plus shipping, in my case 50 usd supposedly)  
==Disc Holder==
*Some used modules don't have it, and it can be sold as an accessory for the front "dispenser" to make it a Kiosk of sorts
*Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)
*[https://www.ebay.com/itm/404818976166?itmmeta=01HSEQ45EQG8AYGMF1RQ75NK6Z&hash=item5e41175da6:g:NAQAAOSwEKhlscdM&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA4A1QP1H6MhtqGXQ69XhJpTzZiLZcxcDCuOlT3ZYgRoqQFSCeu7QE0JE1HA9KeQSuCQuZFgfxJwSgBzMXIMulVRqJnVb28b14AYV41tHsy17x4SdEAFhPdkBJYGa%2Fn22L43tktT62CLhJGFOxiZrrtJUpM6wMrDTNOji5ZGFPRAQ2SB8WvAb%2BzeiVrvT1%2FDeDyCMRUOGXy3V0rAhoP%2Bt8SNFS%2FBRxwuvT65nV%2FADwoDzZlM8B68dWjKFy2n3EiHzjLCSVDf%2FPcFpUFaVHSlv9SG5W%2F2k%2BiNNbukKTRcq8QPNZ%7Ctkp%3ABFBMuNeQ18tj This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module] (Going for '''24.69 USD''' + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)


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Revision as of 20:02, 20 March 2024

Basics

  • A company that seems to be the main (if not only) producer of prosumer grade Automated Systems for Optical Disc Burning and Printing
  • You put a stack of "fresh" unburnt CD DVD or Blu-Ray etc discs on one side, a gantry lifts them up one at a time, places them in 1-2 (depending on option) burning drives, then once done places them in a "print tray". Finally they are put into the finished stack and/or dropped out a slot in the front into a container or the "kiosk module"
  • Would have utility for Publishing small runs of Discs (kind of what was planned for the GVCS way back)
  • HOWEVER for Data Storage (Particurally in Archiving / "Cold Data" ) along with the slightly more vulnerable Magnetic Tape (Such as LTO Tape mainly, although modernized D-VHS would be interesting!), and the far more resilient but more complex Subsurface Laser Engraving based data storage in transparent media such as Borosilicate Glass , discs have the advantage of stability
    • Short of a fire, or severe UV bombardment, or shattering, Optical Discs can be far more resilient compared to other methods:
      • Cannot be De-Magnetized (unless you count odd Magneto-Optical Stuff) (Such as Spinning HDDs or Tape)
      • Doesn't degrade link Paper or Microfiche/Microtape
      • Doesn't require power to keep data long term (such as Flash Memory) (Minor nuance in that obviously SSDs can work without power, but long term data rot does occur)
    • Recall Speed is an advantage of Optical over tape outside of longevity. You get recall similar to SSD, but stability of tape (LTO Tape requires essentially the same rewinding as a VHS but for moving through it's *giant volume*
  • WORM Type Archival Grade Disks (Most are versions of blu-ray if i remember correctly) would be the main media of choice
    • [[DVD-RAM] and modernized versions are a curiosity that may pan out
  • Going to clean out the above later , but TLDR these things are neat and may still have a niche

Models

Nomenclature

BRAVO 4000 Series

BRAVO 4100 Series

BRAVO 4200 Series

Used Market

  • Due to them being somewhat obsolete, there are a decent amount on the used market
  • User: Eric here, i'm debating getting one i'll keep you posted (also probably lowest of low priority, but may be worth a glance Marcin? I don't know what all you have Publishing wise (one of those fancy "can print a pile of brochures" printers, etc), and if that is really needed in the paperless age / with print shops and all that but yeah
    • I'll keep you all posted
  • A 4101 Selling for ~587 USD (or lower, given there isn't a PILE of demand trying to get it for lower potentially, granted some resellers being greedy may ruin things as per usual potentially)
  • PRIMERA BRAVO 4051 DISC PUBLISHER 4100 SERIES going for 150 USD or best offer (Plus shipping, in my case 50 usd supposedly)

Disc Holder

  • Some used modules don't have it, and it can be sold as an accessory for the front "dispenser" to make it a Kiosk of sorts
  • Seems like it could be 3D Printed quite easily once a model is made (or improvise with a custom design)
  • This Ebay Listing for the Kiosk Module (Going for 24.69 USD + shipping (8.74 USD Shipping in my Case)

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