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==Calculations== | ==Calculations== | ||
*Cost targets - https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage | *Cost targets - https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage | ||
*1kWhr=3.6MJ. 1 kG of hydrogen is 142MJ/kg | *1kWhr=3.6MJ. 1 kG of hydrogen is 142MJ/kg | ||
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*Cost or stationary storage goal - $1000/kg - [https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/fuel-cell-technologies-office-accomplishments-and-progress] | *Cost or stationary storage goal - $1000/kg - [https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/fuel-cell-technologies-office-accomplishments-and-progress] | ||
:*Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI - | :*Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI - | ||
==Storage Tank Suppliers== | ==Storage Tank Suppliers== | ||
*700 bar, 20 gallon - [http://www.steelheadcomposites.com/request-a-quote/]. '''RFQ submitted 1/27/18''' | *700 bar, 20 gallon - [http://www.steelheadcomposites.com/request-a-quote/]. '''RFQ submitted 1/27/18''' | ||
*In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [http://www.alliancegas.com/storagetubes.html] | *In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [http://www.alliancegas.com/storagetubes.html] | ||
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=Cryogenic Liquid Storage= | =Cryogenic Liquid Storage= | ||
*Ultra High Density | *Ultra High Density | ||
*Can be done using a Dewar, a pure hydrogen gas source, and a cheap cryocooler | *Can be done using a Dewar, a pure hydrogen gas source, and a cheap cryocooler | ||
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=Storage as a Synthesized Fuel= | =Storage as a Synthesized Fuel= | ||
* Convert to Methane by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction Sabatier Reaction] | * Convert to Methane by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction Sabatier Reaction] | ||
* That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels: | * That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels: | ||
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#Sales reflect acceptable safety with 20,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and growing strong. https://www.statista.com/statistics/644545/global-sales-of-fuel-cell-vehicles/ | #Sales reflect acceptable safety with 20,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and growing strong. https://www.statista.com/statistics/644545/global-sales-of-fuel-cell-vehicles/ | ||
= | =Internal Links= | ||
*[[Gas_Storage_in_PVC_Pipe]] - 10000 gal STP is 1.7 kg of hydrogen. | *[[Gas_Storage_in_PVC_Pipe]] - 10000 gal STP is 1.7 kg of hydrogen. | ||
*[[Open Source Fuels Construction Set]] | *[[Open Source Fuels Construction Set]] | ||
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*Low cost cylinders in the $1500 range for 1 or $300 for 10 seem to be available, [https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cng-cylinder-type-3.html] | *Low cost cylinders in the $1500 range for 1 or $300 for 10 seem to be available, [https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cng-cylinder-type-3.html] | ||
*This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [http://energypost.eu/the-lowdown-on-hydrogen-part-1-transportation/] | *This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [http://energypost.eu/the-lowdown-on-hydrogen-part-1-transportation/] | ||
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*In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing. | *In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing. | ||
*[https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/physical-hydrogen-storage Another USA ".gov" site on hydrogen storage] | *[https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/physical-hydrogen-storage Another USA ".gov" site on hydrogen storage] | ||
[[Category: Biofuel]] [[Category: Hydrogen]] |
Revision as of 19:55, 23 June 2020
Basics
- Although hydrogen if a good fuel, its storage can be complicated. Thus this page was made.
Cost
- Quote for a 350/700 bar type 3 80L tank is $3150 below quoted
- Storage in this tank is 2.5 gal fuel equivalent at 350 bar
- Optimal conversion of fuel to electricity is 14 kWh_e/gal. See Fuel Consumption.
- Thus the storage cost is $90 (tank alone, no plumbing) per kWh_e at these costs. Double pressure to 700 and add 100% for plumbing and cost is at $90 for this storage, 4x less than Lithium Ion batteries, and equivalent to Saturated Water thermal storage.
- These are critical numbers to understand to transcend resource conflicts
High Pressure Hydrogen
- 350-700 bar - [1] -
- $3150 - 1400 gallons STP - 4.8 or 2.4 kg hydrogen at 700 or 350 bar. This is about 2.5 or 5 gallons of fuel equivalent. For a 100 mpg car, this is 250 or 500 mile range.
- Electrolyzers can produce hydrogen at pressure, so a compressor is not needed.
- A high pressure steel tank is about $500 - [2]
- The simplest tank that can be used is a steel tank for up to 200 bar. This appears to be the lowest cost option. [3]
- Standard tanks are 55" high and 9" wide. with 45x9 inch usable size. 50L? - about 12 gallon, yes, 50L. If 200 atmospheres, that is 2400 gallon equivalent. 4 of these store 10000 gallons - 1.7 gallon gasoline equivalent - but the efficiency of a hydrogen engine is 2x that of gasoline, so it's effectively 3.4 gallons by comparison. That is acceptable for a microcar, though cylinder weight is 143 each or 572 lb for the tanks themselves - a significant tradeoff for a 750 lb microcar. In the first iteration, a microcar could use 1 of these as a proof of concept for a 100 mile designed range at 750 lb of weight.
Calculations
- Cost targets - https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage
- 1kWhr=3.6MJ. 1 kG of hydrogen is 142MJ/kg
- Cost for car tanks target - $15/kWhr - or about 40x for 1 kG - $600/kg. (above reference)
- Cost or stationary storage goal - $1000/kg - [4]
- Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI -
Storage Tank Suppliers
- 700 bar, 20 gallon - [5]. RFQ submitted 1/27/18
- In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [6]
- Low, medium, and high pressure storage options - [7]
- Pictures of storage tanks - [8]
Cryogenic Liquid Storage
- Ultra High Density
- Can be done using a Dewar, a pure hydrogen gas source, and a cheap cryocooler
- A diy cryocooler could possibly be made to reduce costs further
Storage as a Synthesized Fuel
- Convert to Methane by the Sabatier Reaction
- That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels:
- Methanol can be made from methane via the following process Listed Here
- Dimethyl Ether can be made from Methanol This Details How
- Dimethyl Ether Can be Catalytically Converted to Hydrocarbons such as Gasoline This Details How
- Hydrogen + Carbon Monoxide can be directly converted to hydrocarbons via the Fischer Tropsch Process
Risks
- Presentation to DOE from China, 2010, with links to contacts, https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/03/f12/cng_h2_workshop_4_zheng.pdf
- Good overview, EU, With description of hydrogen storage cylinders , http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf
- Lower Flammability limit 4%, http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf
- Sales reflect acceptable safety with 20,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and growing strong. https://www.statista.com/statistics/644545/global-sales-of-fuel-cell-vehicles/
Internal Links
- Gas_Storage_in_PVC_Pipe - 10000 gal STP is 1.7 kg of hydrogen.
- Open Source Fuels Construction Set
External Links
- Low cost cylinders in the $1500 range for 1 or $300 for 10 seem to be available, [9]
- This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [10]
- Energy.gov state of art technology report - [11]
- In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing.
- Another USA ".gov" site on hydrogen storage