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*'''MJ''' - Is EPDM also more durable than polyethylene - when compared in a buried application? I am seeing manufacturer reports of 40 year lifetime for polyethylene when not exposed to sunlight. Does EPDM exceed on this performance metric?  
*'''MJ''' - Is EPDM also more durable than polyethylene - when compared in a buried application? I am seeing manufacturer reports of 40 year lifetime for polyethylene when not exposed to sunlight. Does EPDM exceed on this performance metric?  
**'''Half Off Ponds''' - 1/9/23. Yes, EPDM is going to be much more durable than the LLDPE liner. We typically say that the LLDPE polyethylene liner will last about 5 years while the EPDM should last 25 years plus depending on the application. Obviously the LLDPE can last much longer than 5 years but it would have to be an application where it is not being walked on and not near anything sharp since it is very easy to puncture. I personally have never heard of the LLDPE liner lasting anywhere near 40 years, potentially that was someone using an HDPE(high density) polyethylene liner and more durable than our LLDPE(low level density). If you plan on using this for the roof of a house then I would recommend only using EPDM.
**'''Half Off Ponds''' - [[Pond_Liner#30_Mil_LLDPE]] - 1/9/23. Yes, EPDM is going to be much more durable than the LLDPE liner. We typically say that the LLDPE polyethylene liner will last about 5 years while the EPDM should last 25 years plus depending on the application. Obviously the LLDPE can last much longer than 5 years but it would have to be an application where it is not being walked on and not near anything sharp since it is very easy to puncture. I personally have never heard of the LLDPE liner lasting anywhere near 40 years, potentially that was someone using an HDPE(high density) polyethylene liner and more durable than our LLDPE(low level density). If you plan on using this for the roof of a house then I would recommend only using EPDM.


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Revision as of 18:39, 9 January 2023

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  • Puncture Resistance - RPE is 3x more resistant than EPDM - [1]
    • This video says you need an underlayment with EPDM, but not with RPE. [2]. EPDM folds better around corners. Vid says 1/2 the weight and 3x the puncture resistance - making it a great choice [3]

SBS

  • SBS peel and stick - [4]. 3 ply. 10,000 sf in 160 hours, or 500 sf in 8 hours. Buy at Menards - [5]. 120 mil thick. 3 layers? Or can we do 1 layer + ballast? More info from another manufacturer - [6]
    • Note - if it is multiple ply (2 or 3) - it is effectively like doing 2-3 roofs instead of one with EPDM. Proper termination detail still needs to be done at fascia and Bargeboard
  • SBS Installation Video

EPDM

  • Seam tape - $1/ft [7]
  • Seam kit - $3/ft [8]
  • Exterior seaming kit - $6/ft [9]
  • EPDM - $1.2/sf [10]
  • Seam primer [11]

Landfill Liner

Outdoor Carpet

  • 50 cents/sf [12]. 7 year outdoor warranty - [13]

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  • MJ - Is EPDM also more durable than polyethylene - when compared in a buried application? I am seeing manufacturer reports of 40 year lifetime for polyethylene when not exposed to sunlight. Does EPDM exceed on this performance metric?
    • Half Off Ponds - Pond_Liner#30_Mil_LLDPE - 1/9/23. Yes, EPDM is going to be much more durable than the LLDPE liner. We typically say that the LLDPE polyethylene liner will last about 5 years while the EPDM should last 25 years plus depending on the application. Obviously the LLDPE can last much longer than 5 years but it would have to be an application where it is not being walked on and not near anything sharp since it is very easy to puncture. I personally have never heard of the LLDPE liner lasting anywhere near 40 years, potentially that was someone using an HDPE(high density) polyethylene liner and more durable than our LLDPE(low level density). If you plan on using this for the roof of a house then I would recommend only using EPDM.

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