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*If we calculate from gallons, take around 5000 gallons per month - [https://www.google.com/search?q=average+mothly+water+use+usa&sca_esv=861d6c36a75495fa&sxsrf=AHTn8zpCPaqPQR3bT1JfEEhTYvd1pXcmOw%3A1747502087939&ei=B8QoaIeLOazBp84PpZaViQ8&ved=0ahUKEwjHqsjJgKuNAxWs4MkDHSVLJfEQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=average+mothly+water+use+usa&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiHGF2ZXJhZ2UgbW90aGx5IHdhdGVyIHVzZSB1c2EyCBAAGBYYChgeMgsQABiABBiGAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYogQYiQUyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBEiXDlDpCFiPDHABeAGQAQCYAV2gAdICqgEBNLgBA8gBAPgBAZgCBaAC8ALCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgIHEAAYgAQYDcICBhAAGBYYHpgDAOIDBRIBMSBAiAYBkAYIkgcBNaAH6iiyBwE0uAfpAsIHAzItNcgHGg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp]. Equals to a cent per gallon on a $50 water bill. | *If we calculate from gallons, take around 5000 gallons per month - [https://www.google.com/search?q=average+mothly+water+use+usa&sca_esv=861d6c36a75495fa&sxsrf=AHTn8zpCPaqPQR3bT1JfEEhTYvd1pXcmOw%3A1747502087939&ei=B8QoaIeLOazBp84PpZaViQ8&ved=0ahUKEwjHqsjJgKuNAxWs4MkDHSVLJfEQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=average+mothly+water+use+usa&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiHGF2ZXJhZ2UgbW90aGx5IHdhdGVyIHVzZSB1c2EyCBAAGBYYChgeMgsQABiABBiGAxiKBTILEAAYgAQYhgMYigUyCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYogQYiQUyCBAAGIAEGKIEMggQABiABBiiBEiXDlDpCFiPDHABeAGQAQCYAV2gAdICqgEBNLgBA8gBAPgBAZgCBaAC8ALCAgoQABiwAxjWBBhHwgIHEAAYgAQYDcICBhAAGBYYHpgDAOIDBRIBMSBAiAYBkAYIkgcBNaAH6iiyBwE0uAfpAsIHAzItNcgHGg&sclient=gws-wiz-serp]. Equals to a cent per gallon on a $50 water bill. | ||
*For 5000 gal/month - a home saves 18,000 gallons of water per year. This is just for average 2.5 person household size. | *For 5000 gal/month - a home saves 18,000 gallons of water per year. This is just for average 2.5 person household size. | ||
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*Multiply your 5 cents times 6 per day times 365 days and you have $110 per year. That is for a single person. Average family in the USA is 2.5, so if this average family wants to flush an added $275 per year down the toilet - they are welcome to do so. I would rather keep 3 crisp Benjamin Franklins in my wallet, not to mention lower taxes if the sewer utility needs to process 25-30% less water if everyone believed this. For example - used a superefficient Niagara Nano - see the specs: https://fergusonprod.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/7546005_6335032_specification. Reviews on Home Depot indicate that this is not a flush-and-brush toilet - one flush seems to work for solids. We are getting 6 of these for our school, as we are interested in saving 180,000 gallons of water per year. | |||
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Revision as of 18:10, 17 May 2025
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Standard
Notes:
- Rear outlet version does exist for Niagara 0.95 gpf [1]
- Tuscany 1.1/1.6 gpf - [2]
Niagara The Original 0.5/0.95 dual. Specification is impressive [3]. $191 - [4] [This model is compatible with N7717, N7716 and N2235RB]. Does not appear to be a flush and brush system from good reviews [5].
- More - $284 [6]
- Niagara Nano - even better at 0.5/0.8 gpf. $311 - [7]. Reviews?
- Niagara Nano exists in 0.8 single flush [8]
- tank only $148 [9]
Model Numbers
- Niagara catalog - [10]. Includes 1/2 gpm aerator showerheads
- N771614R-DF - Round, 0.5/ dual Niagara Original
- N7737EB/N7747T-DF - Niagara Nano
- Says the 0.8 gpf model [11] is compatible with the 0.5/ dual toilet.
- Dual flush nano tank - Part #NN7747TDF
Notes
ultra low water used, lowered water bill imediately - dual flush tank only is $124 [12]
- 8 average bathroom visits per day [13]
- This one says 6 times per day or 10 gpd with low-flush 1.6 gal - [14]
- 6 gallons per person per day is saved if we use 0.5 gpf. Average household of 2.5 [15] thus saves about 5500 gallons per year.
- 1/4 to 1/3 of water bill is spent flushing money down the toilet [16]
- Avg water bill is $50. Water saving toilets thus save $15 of this per month, or $180 per year.
- If we calculate from gallons, take around 5000 gallons per month - [17]. Equals to a cent per gallon on a $50 water bill.
- For 5000 gal/month - a home saves 18,000 gallons of water per year. This is just for average 2.5 person household size.
Communications
- Multiply your 5 cents times 6 per day times 365 days and you have $110 per year. That is for a single person. Average family in the USA is 2.5, so if this average family wants to flush an added $275 per year down the toilet - they are welcome to do so. I would rather keep 3 crisp Benjamin Franklins in my wallet, not to mention lower taxes if the sewer utility needs to process 25-30% less water if everyone believed this. For example - used a superefficient Niagara Nano - see the specs: https://fergusonprod.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/7546005_6335032_specification. Reviews on Home Depot indicate that this is not a flush-and-brush toilet - one flush seems to work for solids. We are getting 6 of these for our school, as we are interested in saving 180,000 gallons of water per year.
Eco
If things aren't ready yet for building a septic system or a blackwater-capable large scale Living Machine there are these quick off-the-shelf options.
Compact composting toilets;
(limited in capacity and so sometimes finicky. Compost suited to gardening, but people tend to prefer using it for non-food crops even if there's no technical reason for it. Must avoid chemicals and drugs in the blackwater stream)
Marine-type incinerating toilets;
(power hungry, expensive, uses consumable paper liners, needs good wind flow in the region and tall vent pipes, but the cleanest, most convenient, and low in maintenance -and helps keep the bathroom warm in winter... Ash is dry and odorless and can be safely put right in the ground or in the trash -or into the sea for that matter. Standard equipment on many yachts and for the Sea Room vacation housing developed by US Subs)
Larger scale composting systems;
Tends to need basement installations but serves whole buildings.
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(from Eric Hunting)