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*Water is less expensive than batteries. In fact, about 100,000x less expensive per kg. [https://chatgpt.com/share/6896609b-e200-8010-b0fe-d347ba815a36] - 1/20 cent vs 2500 cents
*Water is less expensive than batteries. In fact, about 100,000x less expensive per kg. [https://chatgpt.com/share/6896609b-e200-8010-b0fe-d347ba815a36] - 1/20 cent vs 2500 cents
*What if we just store water? Yes!
*What if we just store water? Yes!
*You can use a heat pump to heat water. [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] costs $6k for 60k BTU.
*You can use a heat pump to heat water. [[Hot Water Heat Pump]] costs $6k for 60k BTU. More than enough for hot water, whole house heating.
*How it works: during day, heat pump uses PV energy to heat water - or cool it in summer.  This water is stored in [[IBC Toesl


=Try 2=
=Try 2=

Revision as of 20:55, 8 August 2025

Concept

  • Photovoltaics and other renewables are not gaining traction like they should be because of intermittency - what do you do with PV if there is no sun at night?
  • Batteries are expensive. To store enough energy, say in winter when there is little sun - for 5 days - would require a tremendous amount of storage. About $50k [1]
  • But here's how we do it - store the heat in thermal mass - water - not battery storage.
  • Water is less expensive than batteries. In fact, about 100,000x less expensive per kg. [2] - 1/20 cent vs 2500 cents
  • What if we just store water? Yes!
  • You can use a heat pump to heat water. Hot Water Heat Pump costs $6k for 60k BTU. More than enough for hot water, whole house heating.
  • How it works: during day, heat pump uses PV energy to heat water - or cool it in summer. This water is stored in [[IBC Toesl

Try 2

Detailing the scenario, 20 sq meters of IBC totes 2 high, raised only 30C from 20-50C - or in the negative direction in summer - stores heat/cool for 12 days, and takes 6 days to produce that heat with PV! 1 MWhr of heat stored.

https://chatgpt.com/c/685b1c5e-83c8-8010-a0e4-bbd8923c8845

Initial

See in https://chatgpt.com/share/6858a32a-d328-8010-8c0b-3268127ba2f1

Result 1:

Thermalbat.jpg

Result 2:

Thermalbat2.jpg

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