Timothy O'Shea

• Nature conservancy leader and consultant.
• Cleanfish came out against the way conservation agencies did it.
• Nature article - farmed bad-wild good
• Not good question to ask is it wild or farmed - but is it artisinal vs industrial scale
• Worked with Schumacher in the 20s
• I am similar to John Todd, Tim says. mj responds - "Except he's not one bit open source"