Talk:Brave New War

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Yeah i seriously think Government Transparency / Open Government / (Some more formal, not notes jotted down by a non-expert version of the- ) Open Budget Initiative / Open Pricing could lead to a huge benefit overall.

Need a benchmark/audit of everything and all that data pre-diving into things, and making that data open and easily understandable would be huge.

I need to dive into existing NGOs and see what all is there, i think there is one that advocates Evidence Based Philanthropy (i can't remember the name, it's in my phone links backlog so it will get documented eventually ) although that is moreso monitoring corruption in other NGO's, i guess maybe the Union of Concerned Scientists / the RAND Corporation (in a USA centric context oof) could also count a bit.

Something like they said of just a pile of lawyers/accountants crunching all the numbers and Following the Money could be really neat.

Granted the Panama Papers didn't do all that much


The aspect on Open Source Intelligence (with the livestreaming from ships / remote sensing of construction) is neat as well. Would leave much less room for "They attacked us, time to invade" type situations, and enable deescalation i'd hope.


I just read the article and

"There is, of course, nothing new about using information as a vital instrument of war. But in the past information tended to be a handmaiden to action. Now the informational element appears to be as important as, if not more important than, the physical dimension."

seems quite apt

Granted it's not magic, and i mean this more in the sense of who people will support / vote for + what is in the Overton Window ; you won't suddenly have the power of a superpower nation-state, but i feel that saying "Whoever Controls the Sea, Controls The World" (forget who wrote it, was a huge thing in military strategy when it came out and impacts policy to today), can be adapted to "Whoever Controls the Narrative/Perception Controls the World"

Essentially if you gain enough social presence, you can start to have huge impacts on public stance on issues, as well as push other people to the forefront in political elections even if they don't fit the traditional model, or have backing of the rich/powerful, despite little "Hard Power" or even conventional "Soft Power" (Marshall Plan level economic stuff, huge propaganda departments etc)

The John Oliver Effect is a bit of an example, although i feel they could "lean into it" a bit more

Granted this starts getting into odd ethical territory though. Essentially you are reverse engineering " The Hack Gap " / Manufactured Consent / "Dirty" Arguments, often used in support of the status quo, or even right wing movements, and using them to do the opposite.

Anyone with a PC can make an attack ad

Also if you want to get even more unethical you could use Internet Troll Farms / Paid Advertising / Somewhat-Disingenuously (but for a good reason) inserting agents into groups to spread the narrative (see Union Salting )

As shown by Donald Trump in the USA, with the right understanding of how to give speeches/manipulate people (A great explanation of this is A Video from 2015 by the YouTube Channel "Nerdwriter" Titled "How Donald Trump Answers A Question" , and a proper utilization of social media, as well as utilization of the "Hack Gap", you can take what was outside the overton window and shove it into frame

This Video by the YouTube Channel "CGP Grey" Titled "This Video Will Make You Angry" Goes over memetics in a broad sense i guess

All in all i think the TLDR of that rambling is Narrative Shaping/PR/Propaganda Will All Be Huge to Status Quo Challenging Movements in the Coming Years, be they Good or Evil. Embracing and Mastering this As Soon as Possible is Key to Victory in the Ideological Struggle

--Eric (talk) 02:42, 24 April 2022 (UTC)