Talk:How Big Oil Conquered Oil
Contents
Me ramling while watching 1 and 2
Watching the first one right now. I think it may be a somewhat sketchy group
Also getting to the medical part. Mentioned homeopathic/naturopathic and i'm getting some red flags
It is valid in it's points on rich people influencing things, but i think it may be using this to push that as "medicine is evil", not just "they saw it as another growing thing to monopolize and profit from"
The bit on education is questionable, at least in my experience, due to us learning about the "Robber Barons", and all the harm they did, as well as the harm of aspects of the green revolution / climate change / extractivism etc
The bit on the Green Revolution (or Green Revolution (Agriculture) ) is somewhat valid in that it caused some harm, mainly the need for those consumables i guess
(however on the note of petrochemical fertilizers, mined guano, and other additives did predate them in usage, so not entirely something they alone invented/promoted)
Fear mongering on GMOs. (patenting is horrible, but UN support etc is due to Salinity Tolerant Crops / drought resistance etc, especially given climate change's projected impacts in there areas
Pt 2
"The oligarchs never cared about oil, they cared about control" i think profit is more accurate, occam's razor and whatnot
The oil companies being behind decarbonization?
Malthusian Theory is proven very false, and the whole one child policy / sterilization programs were horrible (learned about that in AP Human Geography ) (and the eugenics/social Darwinism of the 1900s )
Education, Sex Education, and Birth Control Methods, all common are the proven method to overcome overpopulation
The bits on the USA's eugenics in the 1900's and it's influence on Nazi Germany is valid as well.
Casting doubt on climate change being caused by human activity?
(in progress, just getting this long rant "saved" so i don't accidentally delete it )
just equated fighting climate change -> population reduction (*definetly not by* my aforementioned "Education, Sex Education, and Birth Control Methods, all common are the proven method to overcome overpopulation" ) and showed something by tucker fucking carlson on faux news oof)
The point on the rich / people with vested intrest in not changing trying to make CLimate change an individual problem to be fixed by lifestyle choices vs systemic changes is valid)
The issue with peak oil is moreso we keep on finding the need to make development of "Unconventional Oils" viable, rather that **stop using oil**
for example "tar sands" / "well stimulation" etc
Humans went from natural oil seeps, to diggin insanely deep wells, using complex process to extract a thick fluid, transporting it via continent wide pipelines to complex refineries
To anyone in the early days of oil that makes sense as a peak (and to any sensible non oil baron!)
the bit on data on goods/energy flow being a conspiracy is just how modern supply chains work! (also *carbon taxes* so spooky i can't run a coal plant in my backyard and get taxed for my gigaton CO2e / fiscal year !)
The enron bit is probably less a conspiracy behind carbon taxes, and moreso they wanted more things to overspeculate on
The use of carbon *trading* as a sort of bandaid fix / greenwash is valid
The Smart Grid is obviously not for efficiency, but for *globalist dictatorships*
- What if we just don't have people with obscene wealth / influence like the Rockefellers*
TLDW / Conclusions
Finishing up part 2 now
Their Conclusion is as follows (if i understand correctly):
Capitalism Leading to Manipulations of the Economy / Aspects of Society (Money in Politics, PR, etc) -> Capitalists want to Conquer the World / Have Power
I think it is more so just People get rich -> these anti-competitive aspects lead to them getting richer -> rinse and repeat
(Also the eugenics/colonialism stuff is more of an issue of the times amplified by their huge wealth/influence. Akin to how "Chickfila" has been funding various Anti-LGBT+ rights groups, such as the ones they funded supporting conversion thearapy, to the more recent anti-trans rights ones etc
Not some centralized plot, moreso just rich assholes and money in polics
I need to clean this up, but this is done by a sketchy group, references a bunch of questionable people, and comes to a questionable conclusion, so i think it may not be a great source
(It does bring up good points though, and outside of it's odd conclusions / conspiracy stuff it is pretty valid, so not as much "this is all bad" as "this isn't the best video" i guess, so not trying to be all shame on you aaaaaaaaaaaaaa" hate how you can't convey tone/intent well in text)
Names Mentioned as References/Interviews
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._William_Engdahl
- Elaine Dewar
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ball Tim F. Ball was how it was written i think (ah geez i'm going to need to grab timestamps i think)
- https://www.google.com/search?q=patrick+wood&sxsrf=ALeKk03VmoOzadnYJKrc3dW9YiCNspjeqg%3A1624411544072&source=hp&ei=mI3SYJHOAYaz0PEPlLKuiAo&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYNKbqB2sP27lIzXb2j7_m-8r1IhYvZzA&oq=patrick+wood&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyCgguEIcCEBQQkwIyBAguEEMyBQguEJECMgcILhCHAhAUMgIIADICCAAyAggAMgIIADIICC4QxwEQrwEyAggAOgQIIxAnOgoILhDHARCjAhAnOgQIABBDOgsILhCxAxDHARCjAjoHCC4QsQMQQzoKCC4QhwIQsQMQFDoFCAAQsQM6BQguELEDOggILhCxAxCDAToNCC4QhwIQsQMQFBCTAjoHCC4QQxCTAjoCCC5QqwJY8w9g3BBoAHAAeACAAXyIAbAJkgEEMS4xMJgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwiR-rPIzKzxAhWGGTQIHRSZC6EQ4dUDCAk&uact=5 Patrick Wood
- josh del sol (Was during the smart grid bit, they referenced how they would be spitting out radiation, and turns out they are a 5g nut too)
- "Joe the Plumber"
- https://www.joeplummer.com/
- Maybe the same person, but i am uncertain: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_the_Plumber
- Richard A Groove (Can't find much)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Edward_Griffin (i think need to rewatch since this is hours post watching it by now, just going through my *many* tabs)
Accused Groups/People that Seem Sketchy (Ie not the part 1 robber barroning / part 2's money in politics for moar profit)
- They mentioned this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting#Criticisms_and_conspiracy_theories as pre-planning the oil embargo. Wasn't it just all the local conflict due to struggle against (de-)colonialism mess / israel vs others mess)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Strong (I think this was moreso Greenwashing than a power grab, that and/or an "are we the baddies" moment mixed with them having more money than protestor joe on the street thus more power (still semi-valid critique though!)
