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*33 hp Kubota - $6500 [http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=303553207698&category=46098&pm=1&ds=0&t=1602096897000&ver=0]
*33 hp Kubota - $6500 [http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=303553207698&category=46098&pm=1&ds=0&t=1602096897000&ver=0]
*65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [https://www.ebay.com/p/Cummins-B3-3-s095546-Four-Cylinder-65hp-2600-RPM-Diesel-Engine/1961217567]
*65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [https://www.ebay.com/p/Cummins-B3-3-s095546-Four-Cylinder-65hp-2600-RPM-Diesel-Engine/1961217567]
*200 up - $50/HP - $10k - [http://m.ebay.com/itm/07-Cummins-ISBE-G1-5-9-Diesel-Engine-200HP-0-Miles-NEW-/122159565325?hash=item1c71470a0d%3Ag%3AD8oAAOSwNRdX7n80&_trkparms=pageci%253Aeb08777c-3e6c-11e7-9d40-74dbd1807d00%257Cparentrq%253A2cec880315c0aa1406d4c670fffedef8%257Ciid%253A5]
*200 hp - $55/HP - $11k - Cummins -  [https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cummins-ISB-G1-5-9L-200HP-NEW-SURPLUS-DIESEL-ENGINE-FOR-SALE-5-9/333502729181?hash=item4da64fcbdd:g:p-sAAOSwCU1Yz92j]
*360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600
*360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600



Revision as of 03:07, 17 October 2020

Gas

The threshold for relatively inexpensive engines is 19 hp.

  • 27 hp - $980 - $36/hp - [1]. And needs muffler.
  • 24 hp - $870 - $36/hp [2]
  • 22 hp - Briggs - $29/hp - [3]
  • 20 hp - Kohler $700 - $35/hp + muffler - [4]
  • 19 hp Poulan - - $20.5/hp - $390 - [5]
  • 16 hp - $350 - Poulan - [6]
  • 16hp - $330 - Duromax, $20.6/hp - [7]
  • 7 hp - $99 - $14/hp - but no electric start - [8]

Diesel

  • 30 hp Kubota $5000 - $166/hp [9]
  • 33 hp Kubota - $6500 [10]
  • 65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [11]
  • 200 hp - $55/HP - $11k - Cummins - [12]
  • 360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600

Considerations

  • Until an open source engine becomes a reality, engine repair is expensive. $50/hr, easily comes to the new engine price for the $300 gas engine. This indicates that small engines are essentially disposable goods.
  • For the large diesel engine, parts are expensive.
  • Until the advent of the open source diesel engine, engine costs remain 10x as high as they should be.
  • Until the OS engine, disposable engines are a suboptimal but acceptable strategy to keep costs of engine systems low.
  • It is an immediate priority of OSE to develop open source small engines, $11B market (see Market Size) and larger ones are more like 200 billion

Engine Links

  1. 500 &U 1000 hour lifetime for small engines - [13]
  2. 2000-4000 year life of car engines [14] - 150k miles
  3. Tractor engines - 5-10k hours [15]
  4. Pellet-fired stirling engine buggy - see PDF file
  5. Several links to various engine types including Sterling, Wankel, Steam, etc. [16].