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*33 hp Kubota - $6500 [http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=303553207698&category=46098&pm=1&ds=0&t=1602096897000&ver=0] | *33 hp Kubota - $6500 [http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=303553207698&category=46098&pm=1&ds=0&t=1602096897000&ver=0] | ||
*65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [https://www.ebay.com/p/Cummins-B3-3-s095546-Four-Cylinder-65hp-2600-RPM-Diesel-Engine/1961217567] | *65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [https://www.ebay.com/p/Cummins-B3-3-s095546-Four-Cylinder-65hp-2600-RPM-Diesel-Engine/1961217567] | ||
*200 | *200 hp - $55/HP - $11k - Cummins - [https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cummins-ISB-G1-5-9L-200HP-NEW-SURPLUS-DIESEL-ENGINE-FOR-SALE-5-9/333502729181?hash=item4da64fcbdd:g:p-sAAOSwCU1Yz92j] | ||
*360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600 | *360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600 | ||
Revision as of 03:07, 17 October 2020
Gas
The threshold for relatively inexpensive engines is 19 hp.
- 27 hp - $980 - $36/hp - [1]. And needs muffler.
- 24 hp - $870 - $36/hp [2]
- 22 hp - Briggs - $29/hp - [3]
- 20 hp - Kohler $700 - $35/hp + muffler - [4]
- 19 hp Poulan - - $20.5/hp - $390 - [5]
- 16 hp - $350 - Poulan - [6]
- 16hp - $330 - Duromax, $20.6/hp - [7]
- 7 hp - $99 - $14/hp - but no electric start - [8]
Diesel
- 30 hp Kubota $5000 - $166/hp [9]
- 33 hp Kubota - $6500 [10]
- 65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [11]
- 200 hp - $55/HP - $11k - Cummins - [12]
- 360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600
Considerations
- Until an open source engine becomes a reality, engine repair is expensive. $50/hr, easily comes to the new engine price for the $300 gas engine. This indicates that small engines are essentially disposable goods.
- For the large diesel engine, parts are expensive.
- Until the advent of the open source diesel engine, engine costs remain 10x as high as they should be.
- Until the OS engine, disposable engines are a suboptimal but acceptable strategy to keep costs of engine systems low.
- It is an immediate priority of OSE to develop open source small engines, $11B market (see Market Size) and larger ones are more like 200 billion
Engine Links
- 500 &U 1000 hour lifetime for small engines - [13]
- 2000-4000 year life of car engines [14] - 150k miles
- Tractor engines - 5-10k hours [15]
- Pellet-fired stirling engine buggy - see PDF file
- Several links to various engine types including Sterling, Wankel, Steam, etc. [16].