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*16hp - $330 - Duromax, $20.6/hp - [https://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP16HPE-Electric-Recoil-Engine/dp/B0040ZWU18?ref_=ast_sto_dp]
*16hp - $330 - Duromax, $20.6/hp - [https://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP16HPE-Electric-Recoil-Engine/dp/B0040ZWU18?ref_=ast_sto_dp]
*7 hp - $99 - $14/hp - but no electric start - [https://www.harborfreight.com/65-HP-212cc-OHV-Horizontal-Shaft-Gas-Engine-EPACARB-69727.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiMjYwMDEyOTMiLCJza3UiOiI2OTcyNyIsImlzIjoiOTkuOTkiLCJwcm9kdWN0X2lk%0D%0AIjoiODgxNSJ9%0D%0A&cid=paid_google|*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Branded%29|Shop+Press|69727&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Branded%29&utm_content=Shop+Press&gclid=CjwKCAjw_Y_8BRBiEiwA5MCBJmekp_1bVencitpDjdNbKuXfFBgJjMpvpitWg3gWQVOLRJN7aFkYfxoC450QAvD_BwE]
*7 hp - $99 - $14/hp - but no electric start - [https://www.harborfreight.com/65-HP-212cc-OHV-Horizontal-Shaft-Gas-Engine-EPACARB-69727.html?ccdenc=eyJjb2RlIjoiMjYwMDEyOTMiLCJza3UiOiI2OTcyNyIsImlzIjoiOTkuOTkiLCJwcm9kdWN0X2lk%0D%0AIjoiODgxNSJ9%0D%0A&cid=paid_google|*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Branded%29|Shop+Press|69727&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=*PLA+-+Top+SKUs+-+All+%28Branded%29&utm_content=Shop+Press&gclid=CjwKCAjw_Y_8BRBiEiwA5MCBJmekp_1bVencitpDjdNbKuXfFBgJjMpvpitWg3gWQVOLRJN7aFkYfxoC450QAvD_BwE]
*'''18hp Duromax $18/hp''' - has muffler, but not charging - such as for a fan - [https://www.maxtool.com/products/duromax-xp18hp-440cc-18-hp-recoil-start-horizontal-gas-powered-engine?gclid=CjwKCAjwzMeFBhBwEiwAzwS8zIiE5wELYBs-whgO_x3sCukvav0_O4DbexejLwm-PdkdHPIqctL4ERoC4sQQAvD_BwE]
*'''18hp Duromax $18/hp''' - has muffler, but not charging {{x}}- such as for a fan - [https://www.maxtool.com/products/duromax-xp18hp-440cc-18-hp-recoil-start-horizontal-gas-powered-engine?gclid=CjwKCAjwzMeFBhBwEiwAzwS8zIiE5wELYBs-whgO_x3sCukvav0_O4DbexejLwm-PdkdHPIqctL4ERoC4sQQAvD_BwE]


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Revision as of 20:16, 30 July 2022

Selection

OSE's 2020 choice for an engine is the Poulan 19 hp x4 for 74 hp - [1]

Gas

The threshold for relatively inexpensive engines is 19 hp.

  • 27 hp - $980 - $36/hp - [2]. And needs muffler.
  • 24 hp - $870 - $36/hp [3]
  • 22 hp - Briggs - $29/hp - [4]
  • 20 hp - Kohler $700 - $35/hp + muffler - [5]
  • 19 hp Poulan - - $20.5/hp - $390 - [6]
  • 16 hp - $350 - Poulan - [7]. No gas pump, gravity feed gas. But, doesn't come with muffler.
  • 16hp - $330 - Duromax, $20.6/hp - [8]
  • 7 hp - $99 - $14/hp - but no electric start - [9]
  • 18hp Duromax $18/hp - has muffler, but not charging Cross.png- such as for a fan - [10]

Diesel

  • 30 hp Kubota $5000 - $166/hp [11]
  • 33 hp Kubota - $6500 [12]
  • 65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [13]
  • 200 hp - $55/HP - $11k - Cummins - [14]
  • 360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600

Considerations

  • Until an open source engine becomes a reality, engine repair is expensive. $50/hr, easily comes to the new engine price for the $300 gas engine. This indicates that small engines are essentially disposable goods.
  • For the large diesel engine, parts are expensive.
  • Until the advent of the open source diesel engine, engine costs remain 10x as high as they should be.
  • Until the OS engine, disposable engines are a suboptimal but acceptable strategy to keep costs of engine systems low.
  • It is an immediate priority of OSE to develop open source small engines, $11B market (see Market Size) and larger ones are more like 200 billion

Engine Links

  1. 500 &U 1000 hour lifetime for small engines - [15]
  2. 2000-4000 year life of car engines [16] - 150k miles
  3. Tractor engines - 5-10k hours [17]
  4. Pellet-fired stirling engine buggy - see PDF file
  5. Several links to various engine types including Sterling, Wankel, Steam, etc. [18].