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*Interior paint job costs around $3/sf without ceiling or trim, and $5/sf with ceiling and trim. Seems like around $4/sf avg for whole house [https://www.angi.com/articles/how-much-does-it-cost-paint-interior-house.htm] | *Interior paint job costs around $3/sf without ceiling or trim, and $5/sf with ceiling and trim. Seems like around $4/sf avg for whole house [https://www.angi.com/articles/how-much-does-it-cost-paint-interior-house.htm]. But this seems to be re-painting, thus higher for new paint? | ||
*Paint lasts up to 400 sf/gal [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=how+many+square+feet+does+a+gallon+of+paint+cover&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5] | *Paint lasts up to 400 sf/gal [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=how+many+square+feet+does+a+gallon+of+paint+cover&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5] | ||
*You need 2+ coats starting from scratch. | *You need 2+ coats starting from scratch. | ||
*You need primer for raw wood, 2-in-1 paint/primer is for stuff that has been painted already. | *You need primer for raw wood, 2-in-1 paint/primer is for stuff that has been painted already. | ||
*Bob Vila says similar. | |||
=Primer= | |||
*Latex, oil, shellac [https://www.truevalue.com/diy-projects/post/paint-and-stain/choose-the-right-primer#:~:text=Oil%2Dbased%20primers%20are%20ideal,the%20surface%20of%20the%20paint.] | |||
*Oil-based works best on wood. | |||
*'''Oil based''' - | |||
**Majic Barricade - $100 for 5 gal - [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/majic-paints-barricade-stain-killer-primer-5-gal/8-0068-5/p-1642874267516153-c-8028.htm] | |||
**Zinsser oil based $135 5 gal[https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/zinsser-reg-fastprime-reg-interior-oil-base-primer-sealer/6900/p-1444453045701-c-8028.htm] | |||
**Zinsser odorless $200 5 gal [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/zinsser-reg-odorless-interior-oil-base-stain-blocking-primer/3954/p-1444453012229-c-8028.htm] | |||
**Zinsser cover stain - $170 5 gal [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/zinsser-reg-cover-stain-reg-interior-exterior-stain-blocking-primer/3500/p-1444452988195-c-8028.htm] | |||
**Conco $120 - [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/conco-pro-reg-step-one-reg-p008-interior-alkyd-white-quick-dry-stainblocking-primer-sealer/p008-05/p-1444427313000-c-8028.htm] | |||
*'''Shellac ''' | |||
**Zinsser shellac is the highest quality but expensive at $300/5 gal covering 2500 sf [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/zinsser-reg-b-i-n-reg-interior-shellac-base-ultimate-stain-blocking-primer/900/p-1444453050265-c-8028.htm] | |||
**Is Zinsser synthetic shellac any good? $100 less. [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/zinsser-reg-b-i-n-reg-advanced-synthetic-shellac-ultimate-stain-blocking-primer/270978/p-1444452987250-c-8028.htm]. Here is a review. [https://www.painttalk.com/threads/product-review-bin-advanced-synthetic-shellac.40818/] | |||
=Paint= | |||
*Use Pittsburgh [https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/wall-trim-paint/ultra-interior-latex-white-pastel-tint-base-paint-primer/41-310-05/p-1444450069721-c-8025.htm] | |||
=Feeback= | |||
Catarina sez: | |||
<html><p><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial; display: inline !important; float: none;">According to the links below, using the PVA/drywall primer on wood might not be the best idea.</span></p> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><br></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">Go with the <a href="https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/majic-paints-barricade-stain-killer-primer-5-gal/8-0068-5/p-1642874267516153-c-8028.htm" target="_blank" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.menards.com/main/paint/interior-paint-stain/primers-sealers/majic-paints-barricade-stain-killer-primer-5-gal/8-0068-5/p-1642874267516153-c-8028.htm&source=gmail&ust=1684949567394000&usg=AOvVaw1m5gG78poGCwBUFIvfxqI1" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">oil-based primer.</a> That won't raise the grain and will hopefully provide a smooth surface for the paint.</div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><br></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;">It's also possible that these stain-blocking primers all do the same job as the more expensive BIN primer that we're using on the ceiling. I just don't know...</div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><br></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><a href="https://www.yourownarchitect.com/can-you-use-drywall-primer-on-wood/" target="_blank" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.yourownarchitect.com/can-you-use-drywall-primer-on-wood/&source=gmail&ust=1684949567394000&usg=AOvVaw2sQmFj-WJGAg-gKYrIFHX5" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://www.yourownarchitect.<wbr>com/can-you-use-drywall-<wbr>primer-on-wood/</a></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><br></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><a href="https://woodthrive.com/pva-drywall-primer-on-the-wood/" target="_blank" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://woodthrive.com/pva-drywall-primer-on-the-wood/&source=gmail&ust=1684949567394000&usg=AOvVaw2Q3YKSPwXMQ4wmfCqArofQ" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://woodthrive.com/pva-<wbr>drywall-primer-on-the-wood/</a></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><br></div> | |||
<div style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-decoration-thickness: initial; text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color: initial;"><a href="https://paintsgeek.com/pva-primer-on-wood-how-and-when-should-you-apply-it/" target="_blank" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://paintsgeek.com/pva-primer-on-wood-how-and-when-should-you-apply-it/&source=gmail&ust=1684949567394000&usg=AOvVaw2U8WM1pO57ZhNdFh-NEJaP" style="color: rgb(17, 85, 204);">https://paintsgeek.com/pva-<wbr>primer-on-wood-how-and-when-<wbr>should-you-apply-it/</a></div></html> | |||
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Latest revision as of 22:51, 2 September 2023
- Interior paint job costs around $3/sf without ceiling or trim, and $5/sf with ceiling and trim. Seems like around $4/sf avg for whole house [1]. But this seems to be re-painting, thus higher for new paint?
- Paint lasts up to 400 sf/gal [2]
- You need 2+ coats starting from scratch.
- You need primer for raw wood, 2-in-1 paint/primer is for stuff that has been painted already.
- Bob Vila says similar.
Primer
- Latex, oil, shellac [3]
- Oil-based works best on wood.
- Oil based -
- Shellac
Paint
- Use Pittsburgh [12]
Feeback
Catarina sez:
According to the links below, using the PVA/drywall primer on wood might not be the best idea.
Go with the oil-based primer. That won't raise the grain and will hopefully provide a smooth surface for the paint.
It's also possible that these stain-blocking primers all do the same job as the more expensive BIN primer that we're using on the ceiling. I just don't know...