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=Hydrogen Generator=
=Hydrogen Generator=
==Separating Generator==
*See [[Electrolyzer]]
*200 cc/min at 3-8 bar - $9k - [https://www.fuelcellstore.com/proton-onsite-hydrogen-energy-gas-solutions/hydrogen-generator-g200]. With 1440 minutes/day - or 0.3 cu meter per day.
*1000 cc/min - $3280 - for 1000 ml/min - 1.4 cu meter/day. Alkaline, 4 bar. That is 130 grams of hydrogen per day. [https://www.fuelcellstore.com/hydrogen-equipment/laboratory-gas-generators/alkaline-hydrogen-generator-shc-1000]
**Redo the same - and 10x lower cost.
**Need 3 hours of [[Honda EU1000]] generator - or 2.7 kWhr.
*'''500 cc/min - $700 '''- [https://www.ebay.com/i/303581323329?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=303581323329&targetid=934800885096&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9023315&poi=&campaignid=10459842387&mkgroupid=104612011100&rlsatarget=pla-934800885096&abcId=2146002&merchantid=113206412&gclid=CjwKCAjw2dD7BRASEiwAWCtCb1byp7oBwY9Bp1ey_LIVTAioZezzH2bQOWlXG3MBslaV2CYhdiWvmRoC7WYQAvD_BwE]
*Zirfon PERL is common electrolyzer separator material - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krz5k4gu_pw]. It is a polysulfone (3D printable) and ZrO blend.
 
==DIY Separating==
*thediyscienceguy@gmail.com - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REV739pRNcw]
 
==Mixing Generator==
*$200 for 6 lpm - but this is HHO, not H + 0
*Graphite plates work well - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuZ5WxYwl4g]
*Wet vs dry cell design - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQOxWXRsLB4]


=Demonstration Hydrogen Houses=
=Demonstration Hydrogen Houses=
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*Fuel cell types overview - [https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/fuel_cell_technology#:~:text=Operating%20a%20PEM%20fuel%20cell,good%20for%20about%2040%2C000%20hours.]
*Fuel cell types overview - [https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/fuel_cell_technology#:~:text=Operating%20a%20PEM%20fuel%20cell,good%20for%20about%2040%2C000%20hours.]
*1kW costs $5k - [https://www.fuelcellearth.com/fuel-cell-products/horizon-1000w-pem-fuel-cell/]
*1kW costs $5k - [https://www.fuelcellearth.com/fuel-cell-products/horizon-1000w-pem-fuel-cell/]
*400W for 8k Euro [https://www.powerup-tech.com/products/up400]
*400W for 8.5k Euro [https://www.powerup-tech.com/products/up400]
*$60/W - [https://www.classbforum.com/forums/f23/sofc-fuel-cells-8360.html]
*$60/W - [https://www.classbforum.com/forums/f23/sofc-fuel-cells-8360.html]
*11k fuel cell cars exist already worldwide, half of them being in California - [https://www.npr.org/2019/03/18/700877189/japan-is-betting-big-on-the-future-of-hydrogen-cars#:~:text=Only%20about%2011%2C000%20fuel%20cell%20vehicles%20are%20on%20the%20road%20worldwide.]
*11k fuel cell cars exist already worldwide, half of them being in California - [https://www.npr.org/2019/03/18/700877189/japan-is-betting-big-on-the-future-of-hydrogen-cars#:~:text=Only%20about%2011%2C000%20fuel%20cell%20vehicles%20are%20on%20the%20road%20worldwide.]
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*Cost approximately $1M each. OSE could fund these from proceeds of programmatic revenue in locations of [[OSE Campuses]].
*Cost approximately $1M each. OSE could fund these from proceeds of programmatic revenue in locations of [[OSE Campuses]].


=Seminal Work by Lovins=
=Internal Links=
*20 hydrogen myths - [https://www.scribd.com/doc/71456929/e03-05-20hydrogenmyths?secret_password=gow2fk3d1e0gayhwls0#fullscreen&from_embed]
*[[20 Hydrogen Myths (Whitepaper)]]
*[[Solar Hydrogen Production]]
*[[Hydrogen Production]]
 
=External Links=
*[https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-and-fuel-cell-technologies-office Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy]


=Resources=
[[Category: Biofuel]] [[Category: Energy]] [[Category: Hydrogen]]
*Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy - [https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-and-fuel-cell-technologies-office]

Latest revision as of 23:26, 1 August 2021

OSE Position

OSE proposes a robust economy based on water lubricated internal combustion engines running on hydrogen as a solution for distributed power production - available today using current technology with no new innovation needed outside of social innovation towards acceptance of the possibility.

Info

  • Hydrogen Station Compression and Costs from NREL - [1]. Concludes cost of compression, storage, and
  • Diaphragm compressor - for hydrogen - [2]
  • Piston compressors provide high volume. Easier to do than diaphragm compressors. No need for ultra purity in hydrogen engines. [3]

Low Pressure Storage

  • Low pressure hydrogen storage - [4] - NJ demo house.

Companies

  • Pure Energy Centre - [5]

Hydrogen Cylinders

  • 2000 PSI - 194 cu f (5.5 cu m) [6]

Hydrogen Generator

Demonstration Hydrogen Houses

  • Hopewell Project - NJ - [7]. AKA Hydrogen House - [8]
  • Scientific American - Oh, only $500k for the off-grid home - [9]

Hydrogen Engines

Fuel Cells

  • Fuel cell types overview - [11]
  • 1kW costs $5k - [12]
  • 400W for 8.5k Euro [13]
  • $60/W - [14]
  • 11k fuel cell cars exist already worldwide, half of them being in California - [15]
  • From [16] - Fccars.png

Efficiency and Lifetime

  • Efficiency from electrolysis back to electricity in fuel cells is 45% with fuel cells - p. 11 - [17]
  • Lifetime of PEM FC is only 2k-4k hours in cars, and 40k in stationary applications. Major issues with longevity! [18]

Fueling Stations

  • Cost approximately $1M each. OSE could fund these from proceeds of programmatic revenue in locations of OSE Campuses.

Internal Links

External Links