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*EVs are a no go on first principles. I wonder when the world will stop deluding itself on this one. It will prosper in fringe markets such as forklifts, but no it cannot be a mainstream option because there is simply not enough lithium, and lithium mining is an environmental disaster. 
*EVs are a no go on first principles. I wonder when the world will stop deluding itself on this one. It will prosper in fringe markets such as forklifts, but no it cannot be a mainstream option because there is simply not enough lithium, and lithium mining is an environmental disaster. 
*OSE is [[Solving Housing]] in 2021. In 2023, we are planning on [[Solving Energy]]. That means hydrogen as the next fuel of choice.
*OSE is [[Solving Housing]] in 2021. In 2023, we are planning on [[Solving Energy]]. That means hydrogen as the next fuel of choice.
=Popular View Against Hydrogen=
*Batteries are overall 80% efficient [https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2020/07/04/why-hydrogen-will-never-be-the-future-of-electric-cars/?sh=f9aa4612fadd]
*Hydrogen is overall 40% efficient.
*Facts: these figures look convincing against hydrogen on paper, but facts are most EVs are likely to be fossil fueled in terms of initial electricity generation, 37% efficient for coal plants [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=hwo+efficient+is+a+coal+plant&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5], bringing the 80% down to under 30% efficient.
*Assessment of article [https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmorris/2020/07/04/why-hydrogen-will-never-be-the-future-of-electric-cars/?sh=f9aa4612fadd]: faulty logic. Argument states : "because there is more electric vehicles now on the road than hydrogen, that clearly means that electric vehicles are superior".
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*[[Logical Fallacies]]

Latest revision as of 18:35, 6 February 2021

  • EVs have a bumpy road ahead - [1]
  • Tesla Killer - [2]

OSE Assessment

  • Lithium is a scarce and strategic resource
  • Water is abundant
  • EVs are a no go on first principles. I wonder when the world will stop deluding itself on this one. It will prosper in fringe markets such as forklifts, but no it cannot be a mainstream option because there is simply not enough lithium, and lithium mining is an environmental disaster. 
  • OSE is Solving Housing in 2021. In 2023, we are planning on Solving Energy. That means hydrogen as the next fuel of choice.

Popular View Against Hydrogen

  • Batteries are overall 80% efficient [3]
  • Hydrogen is overall 40% efficient.
  • Facts: these figures look convincing against hydrogen on paper, but facts are most EVs are likely to be fossil fueled in terms of initial electricity generation, 37% efficient for coal plants [4], bringing the 80% down to under 30% efficient.
  • Assessment of article [5]: faulty logic. Argument states : "because there is more electric vehicles now on the road than hydrogen, that clearly means that electric vehicles are superior".

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