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=Working Doc=
=2022 Working Doc=


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Original design - [[File:stairs.fcstd]]
[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1PVthbAE4RLofESfE-zPzF8QrbQlbA4nnpEpSbuGXxLs/edit#slide=id.g161b0a00624_0_16 edit]


=2022 Version=
We went from 2-'stringer'-blocking design (of [[2021 Stair Design Guide]]) to regular, 3-stringer design.


=Stairway for SeedHome v2=
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[[File:stairs_test.png|100px]]
File:workginlandingdetail.png|'''Working landing utility channel detail.'''  [[File:workginlandingdetail.fcstd]].  
[[File:house_w_stairs.png|100px]]
[[File:stairs_example.png|100px]]
[[File:7_625_stairs_example.png|100px]]


==Step Size==


The steps are 42.125" wide and 11.25" deep with a 1.125" nosing
File:staires.png|'''Stairs.''' [[File:seh2stairs.fcstd]]. See [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N1lS8RBMy0Y0JnR_h1tz23CYFoR5zespNG4T5m4nnZE/edit#slide=id.gd0d0ba6c1a_0_0] for Stair Design Guide - with stringers.


==Rise==
File:seh4landing.png|'''Landing.''' [[File:seh4landing.fcstd]]. SEH 2 version at [[File:Landing.fcstd]]
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[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1CJRaF3Xoc79gxtwKkzjNjD2yxoNJOByv4RmiZbBI1Bg/edit#slide=id.gb328b2d63d_0_9 edit]
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=Build=
How to cut stringer:
*Make a jig - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8N0ctWLMg. For standardized stairs doable by a novice - can't beat the simplicity.
*Author justs marks for 7 steps


The top of the 2nd story flooring is 121.375" from the top of the sill. We also need to add 1.5" from the basement slab to the sill = 122.875" total rise
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The actual stairway rise will depend on the height of the landing:
Simpson version of stringer hanger:


With 2x6s and 3/4" planks (6.25" total) it will need to be 116.625"
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With 2x8s and 3/4" planks (8" total) it will need to be 114.875"


More:


15 steps of 7-3/4" (the maximum allowed by code) is 116.25"
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15 steps of 7-5/8" provides 114.375"
=BOM=
*Mitek - [https://www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/construction-hardware/miscellaneous-connectors/mitek-reg-5-x-9-3-4-triple-zinc-concealed-stringer-hanger/csh-tz/p-1444445471577-c-8865.htm]
*Simpson - [https://www.lowes.com/pd/Simpson-Strong-Tie/5013278905?cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-prd-_-bdm-_-ggl-_-LIA_BDM_103_Roofing-Gutters-_-5013278905-_-local-_-0-_-0&ds_rl=1286981&gclid=CjwKCAjws--ZBhAXEiwAv-RNL-1P3mbgrmpHmuZJzpp9IfvBa0AGI9QQqs-8_vrzvIzYfp6lUZBaChoC-kIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds]
*https://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/lumber-boards/dimensional-lumber/2-x-12-1-southern-yellow-pine-construction-framing-lumber/1022190/p-1444422422543-c-13125.htm


=Prior Art=
*[[Stair Design Guide]]
*[[Seed Eco-Home 2 Stairs]]
*From [[House Design Guide]] - [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N1lS8RBMy0Y0JnR_h1tz23CYFoR5zespNG4T5m4nnZE/edit#slide=id.gd0d0ba6c1a_0_0]
*[[Stair_Design_Guide#Working_Doc]]


The landing or the top step can be adjusted to make up the difference
=Future Work=
*3D printed stringers make life digital, and could be used as templates.


==CAD for Stairway with 7 3/4" rise==
=Links=
[[File:stairs_detail.fcstd]] - Detailed design file - 7.75" rise
*[[FreeCAD Stair Designer]].
 
*[[House Design Guide]] has general design notes - specifically {{check}} [https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1N1lS8RBMy0Y0JnR_h1tz23CYFoR5zespNG4T5m4nnZE/edit#slide=id.gd0d0ba6c1a_0_0 here]  
[[File:stairs_simple.fcstd]] - Simple object for merge
*[[2021 Stair Design Guide]] - work prior to using regular stringers, which turns out to be easier to build after all.
 
==CAD for Stairway with a 7 5/8" rise==
[[File:7_625_stairs_detail.fcstd]] - Detailed design file - 7.625" rise
 
[[File:7_625_stairs_simple.fcstd]] - Simple object for merge
 
[[File:7_625_stairs_example.fcstd]] - Example - SEH2 partial with Stairs
 
==FreeCAD workbench to generate stairs==
[[File:FreeCAD_Stairs_Workbench.zip]]
 
(Note: The generated steps need to be rotated 180 degrees for use in SEH2.  If you create a simple copy, you can set the placement angle to 180 deg and then adjust the x, y, and z position to position the stairs.  x=349.35" and y=186.125" should align them in the stairwell. Adjust z as needed to move them up or down to meet the landing.)

Latest revision as of 01:03, 10 October 2022

2022 Working Doc

edit

2022 Version

We went from 2-'stringer'-blocking design (of 2021 Stair Design Guide) to regular, 3-stringer design.

Build

How to cut stringer:

Simpson version of stringer hanger:


More:

BOM

Prior Art

Future Work

  • 3D printed stringers make life digital, and could be used as templates.

Links

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