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*Accelera, $3k, only 1800W heat pump output [https://www.supplyhouse.com/Stiebel-Eltron-233059-Accelera-300-E-80-Gallon-Hybrid-Electric-Heat-Pump-Water-Heater-10-Year-Warranty?utm_source=google_ad&utm_medium=Shopping_ntm&utm_campaign=Shopping_NTM_New_users&gclid=CjwKCAiA0JKfBhBIEiwAPhZXD0SJhdDMequm_G7g42geEf2wvXbhkfRKrsupzD_ZdV4WOQ43cMr8iBoCcpEQAvD_BwE] | *Accelera, $3k, only 1800W heat pump output [https://www.supplyhouse.com/Stiebel-Eltron-233059-Accelera-300-E-80-Gallon-Hybrid-Electric-Heat-Pump-Water-Heater-10-Year-Warranty?utm_source=google_ad&utm_medium=Shopping_ntm&utm_campaign=Shopping_NTM_New_users&gclid=CjwKCAiA0JKfBhBIEiwAPhZXD0SJhdDMequm_G7g42geEf2wvXbhkfRKrsupzD_ZdV4WOQ43cMr8iBoCcpEQAvD_BwE] | ||
*Ruud - 4200 BTU compressor = $1664. If get 6 of these, that is $10k. [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=hybrid+water+heater&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5] | *Ruud - 4200 BTU compressor = $1664. If get 6 of these, that is $10k. [https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk026QG9BbsZl0rNsBS9KmerMgczY_w%3A1602863734253&source=hp&ei=dsKJX6q8DJDYsAXHkpG4Cw&q=hybrid+water+heater&btnK=Google+Search&oq=how+to+configure+nvidia+geforce+gtx+1650+super+on+linux+mint&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKsCMgUIIRCrAjoOCAAQ6gIQtAIQmgEQ5QI6DgguELEDEMcBEKMCEJMCOggILhDHARCvAToLCC4QsQMQxwEQowI6CAgAELEDEIMBOggILhCxAxCDAToFCAAQsQM6AggAOgQIABAKOgYIABAWEB46CAghEBYQHRAeOgcIIRAKEKABUMsQWOmzAWD8tAFoBnAAeACAAeQGiAGhS5IBDTExLjQ3LjMuMi42LTGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6sAEG&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwiqz4DcvLnsAhUQLKwKHUdJBLcQ4dUDCAk&uact=5] | ||
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*20 gph recovery to 145F - [https://www.eco2waterheater.com/product-info], claims 5x more efficiency than resistance heater. | |||
=The Promise= | =The Promise= | ||
IBC totes in a crawlspace of [[SEH 2000]] with a 12kW PV system and a $6000 off the shelf heat pump get us to full winter and summer heating/cooling with storage for 20 days if sun doesn't shine. Buffett Jones loved this when I told him this evolution, we should be able to implement this in one of our next 10 builds while coming out at a $100k SEH 2000 materials cost. Zero CO2 because it's PV power. Details | IBC totes in a crawlspace of [[SEH 2000]] with a 12kW PV system and a $6000 off the shelf heat pump get us to full winter and summer heating/cooling with storage for 20 days if sun doesn't shine. Buffett Jones loved this when I told him this evolution, we should be able to implement this in one of our next 10 builds while coming out at a $100k SEH 2000 materials cost. Zero CO2 because it's PV power. Details at [[IBC Tote#Calculations]], where cost is $9.5k for a 25 tote (5 day) system. | ||
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*[[Heat Pump]] | *[[Heat Pump]] | ||
*[[Ground Source Heat Pump]] / [[Ground Freezing]] (I'll get to it later, but it would be interesting to crunch the numbers of this, vs [[IBC]] based systems, vs something akin to a pool, or [[Cistern]] but for thermal storage, also those [[Insulated Thermal Working Fluid Tanks]] i was plotting for ''the ultimate'' [[Solar Hot Water]] + [[Hydronic Heating]] System | |||
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Latest revision as of 17:43, 3 December 2023
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- R410a - Arctic heat pumps - air to water - 48000 BTU only $6k - [1].
60k BTU $6k [2]
CO2 based thus eco - R744 - but just for heating and not cooling - [3]
- 15000 BTU - 65C max - [4]. $3500 for the heat pump outdoor unit only [5], $5400 for system [6]. Outdoor unit already has water heat exchanger, so that's all we need. 1700W usage! One 6kW inverter runs 3 of these.
- Rheem Performance Platinum - has heat pump only mode, heat pump is only 4200BTU. [7] (1.2kW heat pump + 4500 electric element)
- Accelera, $3k, only 1800W heat pump output [8]
- Ruud - 4200 BTU compressor = $1664. If get 6 of these, that is $10k. [9]
Data
- 20 gph recovery to 145F - [10], claims 5x more efficiency than resistance heater.
The Promise
IBC totes in a crawlspace of SEH 2000 with a 12kW PV system and a $6000 off the shelf heat pump get us to full winter and summer heating/cooling with storage for 20 days if sun doesn't shine. Buffett Jones loved this when I told him this evolution, we should be able to implement this in one of our next 10 builds while coming out at a $100k SEH 2000 materials cost. Zero CO2 because it's PV power. Details at IBC Tote#Calculations, where cost is $9.5k for a 25 tote (5 day) system.
Internal Links
- Heat Pump
- Ground Source Heat Pump / Ground Freezing (I'll get to it later, but it would be interesting to crunch the numbers of this, vs IBC based systems, vs something akin to a pool, or Cistern but for thermal storage, also those Insulated Thermal Working Fluid Tanks i was plotting for the ultimate Solar Hot Water + Hydronic Heating System