Engines

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Selection

OSE's 2020 choice for an engine is the Poulan 19 hp x4 for 74 hp - [1]

Gas

The threshold for relatively inexpensive engines is 19 hp.

  • 27 hp - $980 - $36/hp - [2]. And needs muffler.
  • 24 hp - $870 - $36/hp [3]
  • 22 hp - Briggs - $29/hp - [4]
  • 20 hp - Kohler $700 - $35/hp + muffler - [5]
  • 19 hp Poulan - - $20.5/hp - $390 - [6]
  • 16 hp - $350 - Poulan - [7]. No gas pump, gravity feed gas. But, doesn't come with muffler. Check.png Has 15A charging. Muffler - [8]
  • 16hp - $330 - Duromax, $20.6/hp - [9]
  • 7 hp - $159 - $22/hp - but no electric start - [10]
  • 18hp Duromax $18/hp - has muffler, but not charging Cross.png- such as for a fan - [11]

Diesel

  • 30 hp Kubota $5000 - $166/hp [12]
  • 33 hp Kubota - $6500 [13]
  • 65 HP - $6300 - $100/hp [14]
  • 200 hp - $55/HP - $11k - Cummins - [15]
  • 360 HP Mack used - $10/HP - $3600

Considerations

  • Until an open source engine becomes a reality, engine repair is expensive. $50/hr, easily comes to the new engine price for the $300 gas engine. This indicates that small engines are essentially disposable goods.
  • For the large diesel engine, parts are expensive.
  • Until the advent of the open source diesel engine, engine costs remain 10x as high as they should be.
  • Until the OS engine, disposable engines are a suboptimal but acceptable strategy to keep costs of engine systems low.
  • It is an immediate priority of OSE to develop open source small engines, $11B market (see Market Size) and larger ones are more like 200 billion

Engine Links

  1. 500 &U 1000 hour lifetime for small engines - [16]
  2. 2000-4000 year life of car engines [17] - 150k miles
  3. Tractor engines - 5-10k hours [18]
  4. Pellet-fired stirling engine buggy - see PDF file
  5. Several links to various engine types including Sterling, Wankel, Steam, etc. [19].