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Parameters for assessing cost and practicality:
Have [[Metal Roofs]] / [[Metal Roofing]] been considered?  (I found a page under one of those names earlier).  They are VERY durable, and supposedly offer some insulation benefits?  Also the long term maitenence is way less that shingles etc.  I know at least here in florida with storm damage being hell for shingles, they are becoming a great option.
#Materials: EPDM, TPO or PVC
#Installation method: fully adhered, mechanically fasteners + heat welded (seams only) or mechanically fastened + glued (seams only)
#Form factor: all of these materials come in a variety of sizes - but none is a perfect fit for our roof size - so we need to pick the one that leads to the least waste (cut ends)


Suppliers that sell directly to the public.
Main concerns would be:
*Noise from rain on roof
**Can be seen as pleasant, or removed via [[Sound Insulation]] ?
*Aesthetics
**Some  s u b u r b s    don't allow them, but this is changing as they are being adapted to not just be "shiny sheet metal", and as people learn of their benefits (listed above)
**Also if designed FOR them, rather than retrofitted, their aesthetic can add to the overal design's appeal, not subtract from it


Roofkit (EPDM only, I think):
--[[User:Eric|Eric]] ([[User talk:Eric|talk]]) 2:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
*Product line at menards: 45 mil EPDM, latex adhesive, primer, seam tape. This comes out to around $1.15/sq ft - but that doesn't include the cost of seams (which use primer and seam tape) nor waste due to form factor.
*Installation manual
*Website - with installation videos and FAQ
 
WeatherBond (EPDM, TPO and PVC)
*Comes in a variety of sizes (for example). Can also be acquired by the foot.
*Fastener plates
*Installation videos
*Loads of technical and how-to details (if you can make sense of them):
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/Thermoplastic_Specification_and_Details.pdf]
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/WB-4054-TPO_PVC-Material-Estimator-Sheet-8.5-x-11_03-24-20.pdf]
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/607877-WB-4937-Rooftop-Detail-Guide_04-25-18.pdf]
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/WB-4342-Product-Reference-Guide_03-25-20.pdf]
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018-WBPC-2.0-TPO-PVC.pdf]
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/603160-4044-WB-TPO-Rooftop-Detail-Installation-Guide_04-19-18.pdf
#[https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/2018-WBPMA-2.0B-TPO.pdf]
 
Installing mechanically fastened TPO seems relatively straightforward up to a point (you unroll the membrane, fasten the edges to the deck with screws and plates, overlap the next sheet and heat-weld the seam). But on the written instructions they keep talking about "perimeter sheets" - but I can't find out what perimeter sheets are, how many we need, how much they cost nor how to install them (are they glued?). It's like a ghost material :)
 
They also make a weld-free TPO, but I can't find it for sale online (we may need to contact the manufacturer). '''Weld-free means Seam Tape'''.
 
#https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/604551-WB-1035-Weld-Free-TPO-Trifold-Brochure_03-22-18.pdf
#https://www.weatherbondroofing.com/wp-content/uploads/WB-1042-Weld-Free-TPO-Installation-Guide_02-01-18.pdf
 
One more thing: [[Elijah]] says he doesn't know whether TPO can still be heat-welded after prolonged exposure to UV. So this is a question for the manufacturer - as it would affect if and how we could reuse the membrane.
 
Mechanically fastened roofing membranes:
#https://youtu.be/tHkaXuxgqjo?t=28
#https://youtu.be/zX8T7h-UDg8?t=92
#https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk03UlnvdOs
#https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3IWuCndhh0
 
See also [[Roofing Membranes]]
 
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[https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jr2enge4F-wzPdX2xwkX0djvuFSm3o2l4Vq0CkZ90dg/edit#slide=id.g5c3be0ce2d_1_28 edit]

Latest revision as of 02:46, 16 October 2020

Have Metal Roofs / Metal Roofing been considered? (I found a page under one of those names earlier). They are VERY durable, and supposedly offer some insulation benefits? Also the long term maitenence is way less that shingles etc. I know at least here in florida with storm damage being hell for shingles, they are becoming a great option.

Main concerns would be:

  • Noise from rain on roof
  • Aesthetics
    • Some s u b u r b s don't allow them, but this is changing as they are being adapted to not just be "shiny sheet metal", and as people learn of their benefits (listed above)
    • Also if designed FOR them, rather than retrofitted, their aesthetic can add to the overal design's appeal, not subtract from it

--Eric (talk) 2:46, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

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