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**Need 3 hours of [[Honda EU1000]] generator - or 2.7 kWhr.
**Need 3 hours of [[Honda EU1000]] generator - or 2.7 kWhr.
*'''500 cc/min - $700 '''- [https://www.ebay.com/i/303581323329?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=303581323329&targetid=934800885096&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9023315&poi=&campaignid=10459842387&mkgroupid=104612011100&rlsatarget=pla-934800885096&abcId=2146002&merchantid=113206412&gclid=CjwKCAjw2dD7BRASEiwAWCtCb1byp7oBwY9Bp1ey_LIVTAioZezzH2bQOWlXG3MBslaV2CYhdiWvmRoC7WYQAvD_BwE]
*'''500 cc/min - $700 '''- [https://www.ebay.com/i/303581323329?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=303581323329&targetid=934800885096&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9023315&poi=&campaignid=10459842387&mkgroupid=104612011100&rlsatarget=pla-934800885096&abcId=2146002&merchantid=113206412&gclid=CjwKCAjw2dD7BRASEiwAWCtCb1byp7oBwY9Bp1ey_LIVTAioZezzH2bQOWlXG3MBslaV2CYhdiWvmRoC7WYQAvD_BwE]
**x5 = $3500 for 2500 cc/min or 3.5 cu m per day. Or 290 grams per day. If 0.6 gal used for 7 hours at 1/4 power, Honda EU1000 can do 3.5 hours at 200W. Nearly 1 kWhr.
**x5 = $3500 for 2500 cc/min or 3.5 cu m per day. Or 290 grams per day.  
*Power extraction - If 0.6 gal used for 7 hours at 1/4 power with [[Honda EU1000]] - the gen set can do 7 hours at 200W. Or 1.4 kWhr. It advertises 3.5 hours at full power - or 3 kW.  
*Zirfon PERL is common electrolyzer separator material - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krz5k4gu_pw]. It is a polysulfone (3D printable) and 85% ZrO2 nanoparticles blend. ZrO2 - [https://www.msesupplies.com/products/10-mm-spherical-premium-yttria-stabilized-zirconia-ysz-milling-grinding-media-buy-by-weight?variant=23685767430202&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw2dD7BRASEiwAWCtCbxxVlLs_zZ7YXAh7yX5FxpHyn9GA_7-ECKUwn9pCEx5_yC6d0RbdFhoCuWUQAvD_BwE]
*Zirfon PERL is common electrolyzer separator material - [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krz5k4gu_pw]. It is a polysulfone (3D printable) and 85% ZrO2 nanoparticles blend. ZrO2 - [https://www.msesupplies.com/products/10-mm-spherical-premium-yttria-stabilized-zirconia-ysz-milling-grinding-media-buy-by-weight?variant=23685767430202&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw2dD7BRASEiwAWCtCbxxVlLs_zZ7YXAh7yX5FxpHyn9GA_7-ECKUwn9pCEx5_yC6d0RbdFhoCuWUQAvD_BwE]
*Both stainless steel and nickel work as electrodes - [https://academic.oup.com/ijlct/article/10/4/452/2363372]
*Both stainless steel and nickel work as electrodes - [https://academic.oup.com/ijlct/article/10/4/452/2363372]

Revision as of 15:02, 8 October 2020

OSE Position

OSE proposes a robust economy based on water lubricated internal combustion engines running on hydrogen as a solution for distributed power production - available today using current technology with no new innovation needed outside of social innovation towards acceptance of the possibility.

Info

  • Hydrogen Station Compression and Costs from NREL - [1]. Concludes cost of compression, storage, and
  • Diaphragm compressor - for hydrogen - [2]
  • Piston compressors provide high volume. Easier to do than diaphragm compressors. No need for ultra purity in hydrogen engines. [3]

Low Pressure Storage

  • Low pressure hydrogen storage - [4] - NJ demo house.

Companies

  • Pure Energy Centre - [5]

Hydrogen Cylinders

  • 2000 PSI - 194 cu f (5.5 cu m) [6]

Hydrogen Generator

Separating Generator

  • Diagram of system - [7]. Paper has info contacts at NREL, and comparison of PEM to alkaline.
  • alkaline electrolyzer stack - price not shown - [8]
  • 200 cc/min at 3-8 bar - $9k - [9]. With 1440 minutes/day - or 0.3 cu meter per day.
  • 1000 cc/min - $3280 - for 1000 ml/min - 1.4 cu meter/day. Alkaline, 4 bar. That is 130 grams of hydrogen per day. [10]
    • Redo the same - and 10x lower cost.
    • Need 3 hours of Honda EU1000 generator - or 2.7 kWhr.
  • 500 cc/min - $700 - [11]
    • x5 = $3500 for 2500 cc/min or 3.5 cu m per day. Or 290 grams per day.
  • Power extraction - If 0.6 gal used for 7 hours at 1/4 power with Honda EU1000 - the gen set can do 7 hours at 200W. Or 1.4 kWhr. It advertises 3.5 hours at full power - or 3 kW.
  • Zirfon PERL is common electrolyzer separator material - [12]. It is a polysulfone (3D printable) and 85% ZrO2 nanoparticles blend. ZrO2 - [13]
  • Both stainless steel and nickel work as electrodes - [14]
  • Alkaline Electrolyzer Design

DIY Separating

  • thediyscienceguy@gmail.com - [15]

Mixing Generator

  • $200 for 6 lpm - but this is HHO, not H + 0
  • Graphite plates work well - [16]
  • Wet vs dry cell design - [17]

Demonstration Hydrogen Houses

  • Hopewell Project - NJ - [18]. AKA Hydrogen House - [19]
  • Scientific American - Oh, only $500k for the off-grid home - [20]

Hydrogen Engines

Fuel Cells

  • Fuel cell types overview - [22]
  • 1kW costs $5k - [23]
  • 400W for 8.5k Euro [24]
  • $60/W - [25]
  • 11k fuel cell cars exist already worldwide, half of them being in California - [26]
  • From [27] - Fccars.png

Efficiency and Lifetime

  • Efficiency from electrolysis back to electricity in fuel cells is 45% with fuel cells - p. 11 - [28]
  • Lifetime of PEM FC is only 2k-4k hours in cars, and 40k in stationary applications. Major issues with longevity! [29]

Fueling Stations

  • Cost approximately $1M each. OSE could fund these from proceeds of programmatic revenue in locations of OSE Campuses.

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