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*Optimal conversion of fuel to electricity is 14 kWh_e/gal. See [[Fuel Consumption]]. | *Optimal conversion of fuel to electricity is 14 kWh_e/gal. See [[Fuel Consumption]]. | ||
*Thus the storage cost is $90 (tank alone, no plumbing) per kWh_e at these costs. Double pressure to 700 and add 100% for plumbing and cost is at $90 for this storage, 4x less than Lithium Ion batteries, and equivalent to [[Saturated Water]] thermal storage. | *Thus the storage cost is $90 (tank alone, no plumbing) per kWh_e at these costs. Double pressure to 700 and add 100% for plumbing and cost is at $90 for this storage, 4x less than Lithium Ion batteries, and equivalent to [[Saturated Water]] thermal storage. | ||
*These are critical numbers to understand to transcend resource conflicts | *'''These are critical numbers to understand to transcend resource conflicts''' | ||
=High Pressure Hydrogen= | =High Pressure Hydrogen Storage= | ||
*350-700 bar - [http://www.steelheadcomposites.com/products/gas-cylinders/hydrogen/?_vsrefdom=adwords] - [[File:Steelhead.jpg|200px]] - $3150 - 1400 gallons STP - 4.8 or 2.4 kg hydrogen at 700 or 350 bar. This is about 2.5 or 5 gallons of fuel equivalent. For a 100 mpg car, this is 250 or 500 mile range. | *350-700 bar - [http://www.steelheadcomposites.com/products/gas-cylinders/hydrogen/?_vsrefdom=adwords] - [[File:Steelhead.jpg|200px]] - $3150 - 1400 gallons STP - 4.8 or 2.4 kg hydrogen at 700 or 350 bar. This is about 2.5 or 5 gallons of fuel equivalent. For a 100 mpg car, this is 250 or 500 mile range. | ||
*Electrolyzers can produce hydrogen at pressure, so a compressor is not needed. | *Electrolyzers can produce hydrogen at pressure, so a compressor is not needed. | ||
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==Calculations== | ==Calculations== | ||
*Cost targets - https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage | *Cost targets - https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage | ||
*1kWhr=3.6MJ. 1 kG of hydrogen is 142MJ/kg | *1kWhr=3.6MJ. 1 kG of hydrogen is 142MJ/kg | ||
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*Cost or stationary storage goal - $1000/kg - [https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/fuel-cell-technologies-office-accomplishments-and-progress] | *Cost or stationary storage goal - $1000/kg - [https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/fuel-cell-technologies-office-accomplishments-and-progress] | ||
:*Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI - | :*Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI - | ||
==Storage Tank Suppliers== | ==Storage Tank Suppliers== | ||
*700 bar, 20 gallon - [http://www.steelheadcomposites.com/request-a-quote/]. '''RFQ submitted 1/27/18''' | *700 bar, 20 gallon - [http://www.steelheadcomposites.com/request-a-quote/]. '''RFQ submitted 1/27/18''' | ||
*In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [http://www.alliancegas.com/storagetubes.html] | *In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [http://www.alliancegas.com/storagetubes.html] | ||
*Low, medium, and high pressure storage options - [https://pureenergycentre.com/hydrogen-storage/] | *Low, medium, and high pressure storage options - [https://pureenergycentre.com/hydrogen-storage/] | ||
*Pictures of storage tanks - [https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrogen+storage+tanks&client=ubuntu&hs=h8e&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjllc2L3KHYAhUqxoMKHay7CkkQ_AUI5gEoAQ&biw=1376&bih=788#imgrc=J0pfT75ID0DIDM:] | *Pictures of storage tanks - [https://www.google.com/search?q=hydrogen+storage+tanks&client=ubuntu&hs=h8e&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjllc2L3KHYAhUqxoMKHay7CkkQ_AUI5gEoAQ&biw=1376&bih=788#imgrc=J0pfT75ID0DIDM:] | ||
*[https://www.mahytec.com/en/products/compressed-hydrogen-storage/ Mahytec Storage] | |||
=Sorbent/Lattice Based Storage Methods= | |||
==Carbon== | |||
*SUPPOSEDLY [[Activated Carbon]] (and hyped carbon metamaterials) do this well? | |||
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_storage#Porous_or_layered_carbon The Portion of the Wikipedia Page on this]\ | |||
*[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092583881930917X#:~:text=A%20maximum%20hydrogen%20storage%20capacity,Ramesh%20et%20al. Investigation of room temperature hydrogen storage in biomass derived activated carbon] sounds almost directly ose applicable | |||
**The Paper's Abstract: | |||
**"Overcoming the barrier of hydrogen storage is a promising avenue to a zero emission fuel economy. In the present study, we demonstrate that a balance between pore size, pore volume and large surface area of activated Carbon material helps in achieving increased hydrogen uptake at room temperature and moderate pressures. The activated carbon material, synthesized using a biomass precursor and the KOH activation process, furnishes a high surface area of ∼2090 m2/g and a pore volume of 1.44 cm3/g.The hydrogen adsorption studies exhibits a good hydrogen uptake capacity of ∼1.06 wt% at 15 bar equilibrium hydrogen pressure and 25 °C signifying that this activated carbon prepared using biomass Palimera sprout can be used for catalyst support material for enhancing the hydrogen uptake capacity by spill over mechanism." | |||
===Napkin Math=== | |||
====Givens Used==== | |||
*[[Activated Carbon]] has a density of ~2000-2100 kg/m3? | |||
**Using 2000kg/m^3 for math | |||
**And The Paper Said Activated Carbon has an uptake capacity of ∼1.06 wt% at 15 bar | |||
==== [[User:Eric]] 's math attempt ==== | |||
*So a 1L tank or so should have ~0.001m^3 internal volume | |||
*And 1000L would have ~m^3 internal volume | |||
*[https://www.quora.com/How-much-volume-at-STP-does-1g-of-hydrogen-occupy#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20universal%20gas,occupies%2022.4%20L%20of%20space. Quick Search] on 1g=1mole=how many liters of ambient ( [[STP]] ) hydrogen gas? | |||
*So a 1 liter tank should hold ~2 grams of carbon? | |||
*And a 1000L tank should hold 1 kilo | |||
*1gg of hydrogen2 = 44.8 Ambient Liters? | |||
* '''So a 1 Liter Tank with Activated Carbon at 15 bar holds 2 grams, or 44.8 Ambient Liters of H2 Gas? ''' | |||
====Comparison of this method to UHP==== | |||
*0.264172 L = 1 USG | |||
*3.78541 L = 1 USG | |||
*5299.576 L = 2400 USG | |||
*15 or so bar vs 700 or 350 bar | |||
*∼1.06 wt% (+ add 15 bar tank mass to the lower divide) vs 42 kg/m3 | |||
* [[User:Eric]] lost in conversion maths hell; '''HELP NEEDED''' | |||
==Metal Oxide Frameworks== | |||
*Metal oxides as well | |||
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXAf7MsuPjI Not certain if this was a MOF, but it used pelletized [[Electrospinning | Electrospun]] sorbents that were [[Pneumatic Conveyance | Pneumatically Conveyed]] into a tank in a similar manner to a liquid fuel pump] | |||
**Company may be defunct, need to look into this | |||
=Cryogenic Liquid Storage= | =Cryogenic Liquid Storage= | ||
*Ultra High Density | *Ultra High Density | ||
*Can be done using a | *Can be done using a Dewar, a pure hydrogen gas source, and a cheap cryocooler | ||
*A diy cryocooler could possibly be made to reduce costs further | *A diy cryocooler could possibly be made to reduce costs further | ||
=Storage as a Synthesized Fuel= | =Storage as a Synthesized Fuel= | ||
* Convert to Methane by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction Sabatier Reaction] | * Convert to Methane by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabatier_reaction Sabatier Reaction] | ||
* That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels: | * That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels: | ||
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* Hydrogen + Carbon Monoxide can be directly converted to hydrocarbons via the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer–Tropsch_process Fischer Tropsch Process] | * Hydrogen + Carbon Monoxide can be directly converted to hydrocarbons via the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fischer–Tropsch_process Fischer Tropsch Process] | ||
= | =Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHCs)= | ||
*[[Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers]] | |||
*[[ | |||
=Risks= | =Risks= | ||
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#Good overview, EU, With description of hydrogen storage cylinders , http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf | #Good overview, EU, With description of hydrogen storage cylinders , http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf | ||
#Lower Flammability limit 4%, http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf | #Lower Flammability limit 4%, http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf | ||
#Sales reflect acceptable safety with 20,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and growing strong. https://www.statista.com/statistics/644545/global-sales-of-fuel-cell-vehicles/ | |||
= | =Internal Links= | ||
*[[Gas_Storage_in_PVC_Pipe]] - 10000 gal STP is 1.7 kg of hydrogen. | |||
*[[Open Source Fuels Construction Set]] | |||
=External Links= | |||
*Low cost cylinders in the $1500 range for 1 or $300 for 10 seem to be available, [https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cng-cylinder-type-3.html] | *Low cost cylinders in the $1500 range for 1 or $300 for 10 seem to be available, [https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cng-cylinder-type-3.html] | ||
*This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [http://energypost.eu/the-lowdown-on-hydrogen-part-1-transportation/] | *This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [http://energypost.eu/the-lowdown-on-hydrogen-part-1-transportation/] | ||
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*In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing. | *In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing. | ||
*[https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/physical-hydrogen-storage Another USA ".gov" site on hydrogen storage] | *[https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/physical-hydrogen-storage Another USA ".gov" site on hydrogen storage] | ||
[[Category: Biofuel]] [[Category: Hydrogen]] |
Latest revision as of 03:20, 12 May 2021
Basics
- Although hydrogen if a good fuel, its storage can be complicated. Thus this page was made.
Cost
- Quote for a 350/700 bar type 3 80L tank is $3150 below quoted
- Storage in this tank is 2.5 gal fuel equivalent at 350 bar
- Optimal conversion of fuel to electricity is 14 kWh_e/gal. See Fuel Consumption.
- Thus the storage cost is $90 (tank alone, no plumbing) per kWh_e at these costs. Double pressure to 700 and add 100% for plumbing and cost is at $90 for this storage, 4x less than Lithium Ion batteries, and equivalent to Saturated Water thermal storage.
- These are critical numbers to understand to transcend resource conflicts
High Pressure Hydrogen Storage
- 350-700 bar - [1] -
- $3150 - 1400 gallons STP - 4.8 or 2.4 kg hydrogen at 700 or 350 bar. This is about 2.5 or 5 gallons of fuel equivalent. For a 100 mpg car, this is 250 or 500 mile range.
- Electrolyzers can produce hydrogen at pressure, so a compressor is not needed.
- A high pressure steel tank is about $500 - [2]
- The simplest tank that can be used is a steel tank for up to 200 bar. This appears to be the lowest cost option. [3]
- Standard tanks are 55" high and 9" wide. with 45x9 inch usable size. 50L? - about 12 gallon, yes, 50L. If 200 atmospheres, that is 2400 gallon equivalent. 4 of these store 10000 gallons - 1.7 gallon gasoline equivalent - but the efficiency of a hydrogen engine is 2x that of gasoline, so it's effectively 3.4 gallons by comparison. That is acceptable for a microcar, though cylinder weight is 143 each or 572 lb for the tanks themselves - a significant tradeoff for a 750 lb microcar. In the first iteration, a microcar could use 1 of these as a proof of concept for a 100 mile designed range at 750 lb of weight.
Calculations
- Cost targets - https://energy.gov/eere/fuelcells/hydrogen-storage
- 1kWhr=3.6MJ. 1 kG of hydrogen is 142MJ/kg
- Cost for car tanks target - $15/kWhr - or about 40x for 1 kG - $600/kg. (above reference)
- Cost or stationary storage goal - $1000/kg - [4]
- Compare to propane tank, 1000 gal, 100 PSI -
Storage Tank Suppliers
- 700 bar, 20 gallon - [5]. RFQ submitted 1/27/18
- In-ground storage, 2200 PSI - 14"x40' - [6]
- Low, medium, and high pressure storage options - [7]
- Pictures of storage tanks - [8]
- Mahytec Storage
Sorbent/Lattice Based Storage Methods
Carbon
- SUPPOSEDLY Activated Carbon (and hyped carbon metamaterials) do this well?
- The Portion of the Wikipedia Page on this\
- Investigation of room temperature hydrogen storage in biomass derived activated carbon sounds almost directly ose applicable
- The Paper's Abstract:
- "Overcoming the barrier of hydrogen storage is a promising avenue to a zero emission fuel economy. In the present study, we demonstrate that a balance between pore size, pore volume and large surface area of activated Carbon material helps in achieving increased hydrogen uptake at room temperature and moderate pressures. The activated carbon material, synthesized using a biomass precursor and the KOH activation process, furnishes a high surface area of ∼2090 m2/g and a pore volume of 1.44 cm3/g.The hydrogen adsorption studies exhibits a good hydrogen uptake capacity of ∼1.06 wt% at 15 bar equilibrium hydrogen pressure and 25 °C signifying that this activated carbon prepared using biomass Palimera sprout can be used for catalyst support material for enhancing the hydrogen uptake capacity by spill over mechanism."
Napkin Math
Givens Used
- Activated Carbon has a density of ~2000-2100 kg/m3?
- Using 2000kg/m^3 for math
- And The Paper Said Activated Carbon has an uptake capacity of ∼1.06 wt% at 15 bar
User:Eric 's math attempt
- So a 1L tank or so should have ~0.001m^3 internal volume
- And 1000L would have ~m^3 internal volume
- Quick Search on 1g=1mole=how many liters of ambient ( STP ) hydrogen gas?
- So a 1 liter tank should hold ~2 grams of carbon?
- And a 1000L tank should hold 1 kilo
- 1gg of hydrogen2 = 44.8 Ambient Liters?
- So a 1 Liter Tank with Activated Carbon at 15 bar holds 2 grams, or 44.8 Ambient Liters of H2 Gas?
Comparison of this method to UHP
- 0.264172 L = 1 USG
- 3.78541 L = 1 USG
- 5299.576 L = 2400 USG
- 15 or so bar vs 700 or 350 bar
- ∼1.06 wt% (+ add 15 bar tank mass to the lower divide) vs 42 kg/m3
- User:Eric lost in conversion maths hell; HELP NEEDED
Metal Oxide Frameworks
- Metal oxides as well
- Not certain if this was a MOF, but it used pelletized Electrospun sorbents that were Pneumatically Conveyed into a tank in a similar manner to a liquid fuel pump
- Company may be defunct, need to look into this
Cryogenic Liquid Storage
- Ultra High Density
- Can be done using a Dewar, a pure hydrogen gas source, and a cheap cryocooler
- A diy cryocooler could possibly be made to reduce costs further
Storage as a Synthesized Fuel
- Convert to Methane by the Sabatier Reaction
- That can be compressed/liquified as is or it could be further converted into other fuels:
- Methanol can be made from methane via the following process Listed Here
- Dimethyl Ether can be made from Methanol This Details How
- Dimethyl Ether Can be Catalytically Converted to Hydrocarbons such as Gasoline This Details How
- Hydrogen + Carbon Monoxide can be directly converted to hydrocarbons via the Fischer Tropsch Process
Liquid Organic Hydrogen Carriers (LOHCs)
Risks
- Presentation to DOE from China, 2010, with links to contacts, https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/03/f12/cng_h2_workshop_4_zheng.pdf
- Good overview, EU, With description of hydrogen storage cylinders , http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf
- Lower Flammability limit 4%, http://www.hyresponse.eu/files/Lectures/Safety_of_hydrogen_storage_notes.pdf
- Sales reflect acceptable safety with 20,000 fuel cell vehicles on the road and growing strong. https://www.statista.com/statistics/644545/global-sales-of-fuel-cell-vehicles/
Internal Links
- Gas_Storage_in_PVC_Pipe - 10000 gal STP is 1.7 kg of hydrogen.
- Open Source Fuels Construction Set
External Links
- Low cost cylinders in the $1500 range for 1 or $300 for 10 seem to be available, [9]
- This reports the cost of tanks at low-thousands scale for a car - [10]
- Energy.gov state of art technology report - [11]
- In an open source economy, these costs make hydrogen storage feasible at today's prices - deployable via community-supported manufacturing.
- Another USA ".gov" site on hydrogen storage