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=Forums Deprecated=


In 2018, the forums were no longer moderated or maintained, and the decision was made to deprecate support for the site. The content is still accessible in as static-content; new content is not possible.
=2024=
A forum for the discussion and organization of transformative ideas and practices in civilization. Such a discussion must foster accurateental models of reality, and build upon them to deliver practical post-scarcity.


For more information, please see [[CHG-2018-02-04]]
=Intro=


=Overview=
This is not just a forum. It's a discourse on building the next civilization and solving all pressing world issues - via collaboration as in our [[Mission]]. Start with [[Social Contract]], [[How We Collaborate]], and [[What You Can Do]]. Also, see [[Areas of Activity]] and [[OSE Crash Course]]. [[Developer Crash Course]]. [[What Open Collaboration Is and Isn't]]. Then move on to solving all [[Pressing World Issues]] via [[Movement Entrepreneurship]].
The OSE Forums (forum.pensourceecology.org) are currently unmanaged. OSE Forums have been around since 2008, but we never installed a formal moderation process. [[Elifarley Cruz]] was a volunteer administrator for some time. Since then, updates on Facebook have served as a regular communication channel. Currently, Facebook is the main news and update outlet for the organization, such that anyone wishing to find out news and workshop announcements should follow the [[OSE Facebook Page]].


We have found that the main need of a forum is to maintain constructive dialogue, and we are absolutely committed to maintaining a safe and constructive atmosphere, and a [[Zero Tolerance Policy]] for violators.
As such, the single purpose of the OSE Forum is [[Distributed Market Substitution]] across major sectors of the economy, to create the [[Open Source Economy]]. This means that all projects have an explicit intent and execution of [[Moral Intelligence]] in the form of making a better world for everyone. This implies eradicating [[Artificial Scarcity]] and creating mindsets of abundance, which are pre-requisites to human evolving beyond the threat of self-destruction.
As we go into the future OSE's goal is to upgrade the forum so that it can also be a part of our technical development process. Further, as OSE moves into the future and OSE chapters are started around the globe, our goal is to provide a model for how other chapters can start their own forums, especially if the forums are in a different language than English. To this end, here are the features and requirements that would help us meet these goals:


=Implementation=
Therefore, anyone participating must be working on scalable, open, collaborative projects.
==General==
#Clear and open source protocol for setting up, administering, and managing a forum. This would also serve as a manual that would facilitate the startup of forums by new OSE chapters, including a shared standard and the ability to share data. So that OSE maintains control of its data, ooen source software must be used.
#Forum Moderator, and Moderator Team
#Clear User Agreement and Contributor Agreement to protect the open soirce nature of the community
#Easy login procedure and user permissions management
#Integration with Wiki regarding user login and profile, such as a contributor's skill set


==Forum Features==
These are not one-off propositions, but highly replicable and tested designs, builds, and procedures that can be used in an enterprise. This implies a level of optimization and efficiency. That is - the work developed on this wiki must have economic significance (practical replicability), not self-indulgence, as the primary goal. This is both a rigorous and obvious requirement. For the non-replicable cases, there are many other less focused websites that provide generic edutainment, such as [[WikiHow]], [[Instructables]], [[Thingiverse]], and others. Our content is filtered specifically for a high level of performance that makes the knowhow economically significant, and a high level of documentation that makes the content replicable. This is required so that we realize the promise of open collaborative development - namely to change the world - as opposed to being relegated to the world of hobby, as we work on continuing the existing system without changing it. We believe firmly in delivering [[The Promise of Open Source]]
===Essential===
#A good search feature
#creating new threads
#User friendly, rapid posting interface
#Good structure of forum itself. Structure consisting of only a few subject areas, such as Discussion, Development, Distributive Enterprise, and Community. Clear guidelines regarding each section are required, as well as at least one full time Moderator for the Forum. The funding mechanism for the Forum Moderator should be an OSE Distributive Enterprise, in order to further dogfood our products and community development process.
#'''Upvoting Mechanism for threads and specific responses within threads.''' This would turn the Forum from a simple discussion to a powerful selection and distillation mechanism for valuable content. For example, a Forum thread can be used as a technical question or a review request, and the best answer would be upvoted and would be most visible. This would allow the gems of knowledge to rise to the top of a much larger sea.
#Viewing of content by most recent or most upvoted. Viewing by thread, or by message.
#Display of link content from the OSE wiki only, and viewed as links only for any other content.
#Upload of images, resized automatically to 100k or less
#'''3D viewable/rotatable display of FreeCAD images from OSE wiki. This may be done using html embed codes, but using local processing power.
#html code embed for displaying any html content
#'''Embed code generation such that forum threads can be pasted elsewhere, such as the OSE wiki
#Tight control of front page display - 4 main Forum sections. Each has an explainer video with it.
#Theme clarity: Open Source Ecology, open source economy, via open source product design towards Distributive Enterprise. Explainer video to unravel this.


===Secondary===
=Development Evolution=
#Map of contributors
#Badges
#Link to person's wiki profile and wiki log
#Tagging threads.
#l


==Forum Structure or Information Architecture==
[[Forum Log]]
The main current purpose of the OSE forum is to promote technical development of the GVCS. This includes all the tech ical developme t leading go robust product design - as well as to the creation of Distributive Enterprise related to the GVCS.This must be reflected in the forum structure. There are several supporting functions, including orientation of new participants, helping people find contributors in their area, development of new OSE groups and chapters, technical development per se, and development of [[Distributive Enterprise]], etc.


=Annual Budget=
=Main Function=
*Setup (one time)
*Regular maintenance
*Hosting fee. Traffic requirements. Annual cost per GB ? 10 cents per gigabyte. Recruit http://www.mkomo.com/about for assistance.
*Moderation


=Links=
The main function is to provide a high level of coordination on technical development for a new civilization, with OSE branded as a civilization reconstruction experiment. As far as publicity - publicity comes from outcomes, not pumping projects up in-process. In-process inspiration can come from [[OSE Blog]] posts, [[OSE Workshops FB Page]], [[OSE Twitter]]. Concerted coordination on tech development starts with the high-level inspiration as in the [[OSE TED Talk]], and the daily grind based on delivering the high level vision of the yet-undelivered (2023) [[Promise of Open Hardware]].
*See initial Forum design notes from 2011 at [[Forum Policy]], which has a link to an Essay on constructive criticism.
 
=Scope=
*All topics.
*One section is art of possibility, but it's vetted by calculations and [[Distributed Feasibility]]. One paragraph summaries of:
**DMS
**Distributed manufacturing
**Industrial productivity in a small scale
**Numeracy
**Literacy
**Open Source Ecology
**DE
**OS Microfactory and Industry 4.0
**Materials production. Hydrogen, steel, food, fuel, and concrete in your garage with various appliances.
*Y combinator forum (Hacker News) is background reading.
 
=Example=
*Solar thermal house heat with heat pumps and PV. Baseline calc - 7 kw x24 hr= 184 kWhr at [[Thermal Storage Calculator]]. 6 totes at 30C delta. Hiring based on background reading, calculations, etc. Numeracy, literacy, Collab design, and CAD crash courses. Apply today to be a Movement Entrepreneur. Anyone can become a movement Entrepreneur. $200k homes as a strat. Materials production at $200k/year $1000/day garage production ops.
*Open Enterprise Development -
 
=Areas=
*Listing and topgrading top issues, by country , global, and topical. With long term thinking. Example - [[Outstanding USA Issues]]
*Only constant is change, so design for update, evolution, upgrade, continuous development, etc, and transparency for involvement of others. Start with [[Listening to Understand]]
*Top issues - OSE and world related
*Industrial Inertia Topics - this is a study of the 'way things are' as a way to underscore the importance of OSE work. Across all sectors and institutions. This is how we don't do things - by a deliberate elimination of inefficiencies from first principles design of an ideal system. This is the culture of OSE, which will be manifested in the world's first [[Network State]].
 
=Meta Positioning=
*Required Reading - OSE's fundamentally creative (longtermist, and explain longtermist and approach if there are immediate crises) approach to.solving pressing world issues.
*RR 2 - OSE Whitepaper on Assumptions and therefore Approach, including sequencing and rollout
*Moderation - Thank you. Your feedback is not consistent with our assumptions. Please read our assumptions and approach. If you question our assumptions, please let us know, and we can collaborate on a new approach based on the updates assumptions. We work transparently and are completely open to changing our assumptions if they are faulty.
*'''Positioning''' - solving [[Pressing World Issues]], but not with [[The Best and the Brightest]] - ie, need real, practical experience, technical skills, and a connection to building real things, not just policies or programs. An interdisciplinary viewpoint for systems thinking, coupled to practice. Not forgetting about nature. In short - Open Source Ecologist perspective.
 
=Positioning=
 
Same as OSE positioning:
#Learn to design and build anything
#Learn collaborative design
#Learn how to identify and solve pressing world issues.
#Become ethically financially independent
Topics:
#Solving housing
#Solving water
#Solving food
#Solving education
#Solving energy
#Solving transportation
#Solving the environment
 
=Basic Design=
*Constructive approach. We solve for [[19 SDGs]] - as such:
**Open Source Ecology - We solve pressing world issues. 50 machines and 500 modules for reinventing the technosphere.
**Forum has 19 sections. Corresponding to 19 SDGs. P. 622 MJ26. Image embed.
**Solve housing. Solve food. Solve poverty. Solve classism. Solve energy, education healthcare. Equal opportunity. Etc.
*'''Feedback loops''' - use Forum plugin for star ratings throughout OSE.
*One section for general discussion. '''Welcome'''.
*Development, OSE Chapters, and Extreme Enterprise are the 3 other sections.
*Always link to wiki articles or blog posts. Welcome guest blog posts for seminal contributions.
*Clear governance regarding trolling to eliminate or block any bad behavior and keep forum quality up. [[Dealing with Trolls]]. Make this clear to all users. Note that there are 'soliloquoy' tools in forum software. Install this troll plugin.
*Merciless Edit Policy - Edits may happen. the Forum will be managed so that posts deemed not useful, off-track, or otherwise inappropriate will be removed to keep discussion quality high. Zero tolerance for harassment, misinformation, or other foul play.


=Work Product=
=Qualities=
To be developed.
#Aspirational and development-focused
*[[OSE Forum Guidelines]]
*[[OSE Forum Moderation Guidelines]]
*[[OSE Social Contract]]
*[[OSE Forum Information Architecture]]
*[[OSE Wiki Registration Template]] - questions that are asked during registration
*[[OSE Forum Registration Template]] - questions asked for Forum Registration.
*[[OSE Forum Requirements]]
*[[OSE Forum Specifications]] - platform used, hosting, traffic, growth plan, management, moderation.
*OSE Forum Operations Manual section - hosting, setup, speed, memory
*[[Comparison of Open Source Forum Software]]. To include analysis of support availability, software maturity, features, cost, integration ability.
*[[OSE Contributor Agreement Intents]] (same as wiki)
*[[OSE Contributor Agreement]]
*License. Same as all OSE. Write the intent, and have it rewritten in legal language.
*[[OSE IP Guidelines]]


=Platforms=
=Allied Forums=
* [[Vanilla Forums]]
* phpbb
* e107
* Discourse - https://www.discourse.org/


=See Also=
=Links=
* [[Vanilla Forums]]
*'''2019 and Earlier Developments - See [[OSE Forum Log]]
* [[Forum Policy]]
*[[OSE Forums]] - more org info
* [[CHG-2018-02-04]]
* [[CHG-2018-02-04_deprecate_vanilla_forums]]

Latest revision as of 10:05, 15 April 2025

2024

A forum for the discussion and organization of transformative ideas and practices in civilization. Such a discussion must foster accurateental models of reality, and build upon them to deliver practical post-scarcity.

Intro

This is not just a forum. It's a discourse on building the next civilization and solving all pressing world issues - via collaboration as in our Mission. Start with Social Contract, How We Collaborate, and What You Can Do. Also, see Areas of Activity and OSE Crash Course. Developer Crash Course. What Open Collaboration Is and Isn't. Then move on to solving all Pressing World Issues via Movement Entrepreneurship.

As such, the single purpose of the OSE Forum is Distributed Market Substitution across major sectors of the economy, to create the Open Source Economy. This means that all projects have an explicit intent and execution of Moral Intelligence in the form of making a better world for everyone. This implies eradicating Artificial Scarcity and creating mindsets of abundance, which are pre-requisites to human evolving beyond the threat of self-destruction.

Therefore, anyone participating must be working on scalable, open, collaborative projects.

These are not one-off propositions, but highly replicable and tested designs, builds, and procedures that can be used in an enterprise. This implies a level of optimization and efficiency. That is - the work developed on this wiki must have economic significance (practical replicability), not self-indulgence, as the primary goal. This is both a rigorous and obvious requirement. For the non-replicable cases, there are many other less focused websites that provide generic edutainment, such as WikiHow, Instructables, Thingiverse, and others. Our content is filtered specifically for a high level of performance that makes the knowhow economically significant, and a high level of documentation that makes the content replicable. This is required so that we realize the promise of open collaborative development - namely to change the world - as opposed to being relegated to the world of hobby, as we work on continuing the existing system without changing it. We believe firmly in delivering The Promise of Open Source

Development Evolution

Forum Log

Main Function

The main function is to provide a high level of coordination on technical development for a new civilization, with OSE branded as a civilization reconstruction experiment. As far as publicity - publicity comes from outcomes, not pumping projects up in-process. In-process inspiration can come from OSE Blog posts, OSE Workshops FB Page, OSE Twitter. Concerted coordination on tech development starts with the high-level inspiration as in the OSE TED Talk, and the daily grind based on delivering the high level vision of the yet-undelivered (2023) Promise of Open Hardware.

Scope

  • All topics.
  • One section is art of possibility, but it's vetted by calculations and Distributed Feasibility. One paragraph summaries of:
    • DMS
    • Distributed manufacturing
    • Industrial productivity in a small scale
    • Numeracy
    • Literacy
    • Open Source Ecology
    • DE
    • OS Microfactory and Industry 4.0
    • Materials production. Hydrogen, steel, food, fuel, and concrete in your garage with various appliances.
  • Y combinator forum (Hacker News) is background reading.

Example

  • Solar thermal house heat with heat pumps and PV. Baseline calc - 7 kw x24 hr= 184 kWhr at Thermal Storage Calculator. 6 totes at 30C delta. Hiring based on background reading, calculations, etc. Numeracy, literacy, Collab design, and CAD crash courses. Apply today to be a Movement Entrepreneur. Anyone can become a movement Entrepreneur. $200k homes as a strat. Materials production at $200k/year $1000/day garage production ops.
  • Open Enterprise Development -

Areas

  • Listing and topgrading top issues, by country , global, and topical. With long term thinking. Example - Outstanding USA Issues
  • Only constant is change, so design for update, evolution, upgrade, continuous development, etc, and transparency for involvement of others. Start with Listening to Understand
  • Top issues - OSE and world related
  • Industrial Inertia Topics - this is a study of the 'way things are' as a way to underscore the importance of OSE work. Across all sectors and institutions. This is how we don't do things - by a deliberate elimination of inefficiencies from first principles design of an ideal system. This is the culture of OSE, which will be manifested in the world's first Network State.

Meta Positioning

  • Required Reading - OSE's fundamentally creative (longtermist, and explain longtermist and approach if there are immediate crises) approach to.solving pressing world issues.
  • RR 2 - OSE Whitepaper on Assumptions and therefore Approach, including sequencing and rollout
  • Moderation - Thank you. Your feedback is not consistent with our assumptions. Please read our assumptions and approach. If you question our assumptions, please let us know, and we can collaborate on a new approach based on the updates assumptions. We work transparently and are completely open to changing our assumptions if they are faulty.
  • Positioning - solving Pressing World Issues, but not with The Best and the Brightest - ie, need real, practical experience, technical skills, and a connection to building real things, not just policies or programs. An interdisciplinary viewpoint for systems thinking, coupled to practice. Not forgetting about nature. In short - Open Source Ecologist perspective.

Positioning

Same as OSE positioning:

  1. Learn to design and build anything
  2. Learn collaborative design
  3. Learn how to identify and solve pressing world issues.
  4. Become ethically financially independent

Topics:

  1. Solving housing
  2. Solving water
  3. Solving food
  4. Solving education
  5. Solving energy
  6. Solving transportation
  7. Solving the environment

Basic Design

  • Constructive approach. We solve for 19 SDGs - as such:
    • Open Source Ecology - We solve pressing world issues. 50 machines and 500 modules for reinventing the technosphere.
    • Forum has 19 sections. Corresponding to 19 SDGs. P. 622 MJ26. Image embed.
    • Solve housing. Solve food. Solve poverty. Solve classism. Solve energy, education healthcare. Equal opportunity. Etc.
  • Feedback loops - use Forum plugin for star ratings throughout OSE.
  • One section for general discussion. Welcome.
  • Development, OSE Chapters, and Extreme Enterprise are the 3 other sections.
  • Always link to wiki articles or blog posts. Welcome guest blog posts for seminal contributions.
  • Clear governance regarding trolling to eliminate or block any bad behavior and keep forum quality up. Dealing with Trolls. Make this clear to all users. Note that there are 'soliloquoy' tools in forum software. Install this troll plugin.
  • Merciless Edit Policy - Edits may happen. the Forum will be managed so that posts deemed not useful, off-track, or otherwise inappropriate will be removed to keep discussion quality high. Zero tolerance for harassment, misinformation, or other foul play.

Qualities

  1. Aspirational and development-focused

Allied Forums

Links